Post war type rarities 1947-73 less than 50 known of all player

[sflayank]

55 hocus focus is a tough call
I would say there probably are somewhere around 50 total out there
Al has 21 himself, +other private collections
Probably are more than 50 but I don't know where they are

[sflayank]

National tea labels are the most interesting of all sets
There are 44 in the set, so someone must have them to make the checklist....yet I've only seen in pictures or in person maybe 13 different and 10 doubles
So there must be more than 50, but where are they?

[sflayank]

Parameters are complete sets where there are less than 50 examples known of all cards total in set
Not individual cards, the total of all cards in the set

[raulus]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Parameters are complete sets where there are less than 50 examples known of all cards total in set
Not individual cards, the total of all cards in the set

What if they once existed, but no longer exist in their original form?

Certainly your objection to my Meadowgold suggestion could be an example here.

Some of the complete bazooka boxes also come to mind as an example here. There were almost definitely more than 50 at one point, but due to getting sliced up and/or tossed out, some years might have less than 50 left today in fully intact form. And don’t get me started on the great flap wars - does it still count as a complete box if the flaps have been removed from one or both sides??!!

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by sflayank

55 hocus focus is a tough call
I would say there probably are somewhere around 50 total out there
Al has 21 himself, +other private collections
Probably are more than 50 but I don't know where they are

There's more to Hocus Focus than the Baseball Stars. Even the small #97-126 cards not issued in the larger size would have more than 50 known overall, but it's part of a compete set of 126 as well and they were all printed at the same time on the same sheet.

Speaking of Hocus Focus, anyone got a front and back scan of the Gehrig? I have a low-res front scan and nothing for the back.

[sflayank]

Good point on hocus focus...that is a subset
So definitely more than 50 1955 hocus focus cards
Meadowgold I've seen more than 10 complete boxes
So more than 50 total is easy

[BaltOrioles]

How about the 1959 Kiwanis Baltimore Orioles clinic set? I'm not sure how many are out there, but I can't seem to find the last 5 that I need.

1959 Kiwanis Club Clinic.JPG

[frankhardy]

So what would be the rarest TOPPS issue?

1955 Topps Hocus Focus?
1955 Topps Stamps?
1961 (1963) Topps Dice Game?
1966 Topps Punchouts?
1970 Topps Cloth?

Could someone rank them?

For my Cardinals collection I have all (both) of the Hocus Focus, but I have none of the others listed above. I also do not have any 1967 Topps Standups, but my understanding is that they are not are rare as those above? Could someone confirm this?

[sflayank]

depends on how u want to rank
known examples?
dice games about 25 and uncut sheet of 18
55 hocus focus baseball about 50
55 topps stamps maybe 20
66 punchouts about 25
70 cloth very few

[ALR-bishop]

1971 Topps Rookie Proofs

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by sflayank

depends on how u want to rank
known examples?
dice games about 25 and uncut sheet of 18
55 hocus focus baseball about 50
55 topps stamps maybe 20
66 punchouts about 25
70 cloth very few

Since Larry names the Topps Dice Card set as the rarest Topps set shouldn't anyone who has any graded examples resubmit them to PSA /SGC to change the flip to 1963 since it has been proven by the Groat card with the Cardinals that they were issued well after 1961? Would they change the flips?

Would the TPG companies change the records too to reflect they are 1963?