Crazy eBay story

[Fred]

Is there a summary to this thread?

Here's my understanding:
1) Card sold on ebay
2) Card paid for
3) Card shipped
4) Card reported not received
5) Cases opened
6) Buyer/seller made whole by ebay
7) Card for sale on ebay - by another seller.

QUESTIONS
A) - how did the "new" seller come to posses the card?
B) - is the price of the card higher or lower than what it was sold for originally?
C) - what was the explanation provided by ebay for this peculiar situation?
D) - can the item for sale be disclosed in this N54 thread?

Something just sounds amiss.

[Snapolit1]

That's a fair summary. Something seriously amiss, but I have no evidence where it went amiss so I am refraining from pointing fingers. Here is a link to my sale for anyone interested. (I will probably be laughed at for the ridiculous card, but I took a flyer on it once at a Goldin auction.)

Interestingly, the seller hasn't responded yet to my message that he's selling a stolen card.

My sale:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275556956809

New listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165872106462

eBay told me they had opened an investigation before I had even called them. Curious to see if they actually investigate anything.

Originally Posted by Fred

Is there a summary to this thread?

Here's my understanding:
1) Card sold on ebay
2) Card paid for
3) Card shipped
4) Card reported not received
5) Cases opened
6) Buyer/seller made whole by ebay
7) Card for sale on ebay - by another seller.

QUESTIONS
A) - how did the "new" seller come to posses the card?
B) - is the price of the card higher or lower than what it was sold for originally?
C) - what was the explanation provided by ebay for this peculiar situation?
D) - can the item for sale be disclosed in this N54 thread?

Something just sounds amiss.

[Snapolit1]

If you've never tried getting a live person to the phone at eBay, consider yourself lucky. Truly insane how hard it is to get someone to speak with. And then the person you finally get is at a call center on the other side of the world and doesn't have great facility with English. Nothing against polite hard working people in India packed into a room answering phones for an American company making bllions of dollars a year, but when someone has only the most basic grasp on English its awfully hard to have a genuine conversation with them that is more than a lot of pleasantries and lines off a script.

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Interestingly, the seller hasn't responded yet to my message that he's selling a stolen card.

My sale:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275556956809

New listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165872106462

It looks to me like the new seller is re-using the images from your listing. He didn't use "hover to zoom" so we can't see the texture of the background surface, but the slight clockwise rotation looks the same.

Which would lend itself to the notion that he is quite well aware of the fact that he is selling stolen merchandise.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

That's a fair summary. Something seriously amiss, but I have no evidence where it went amiss so I am refraining from pointing fingers. Here is a link to my sale for anyone interested. (I will probably be laughed at for the ridiculous card, but I took a flyer on it once at a Goldin auction.)

Interestingly, the seller hasn't responded yet to my message that he's selling a stolen card.

My sale:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275556956809

New listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165872106462

eBay told me they had opened an investigation before I had even called them. Curious to see if they actually investigate anything.

Steve, no judgement here, but bwaaaaaaa hahahahaha,,,,,, just kidding.

Thank you for sharing the links. I think ebay has finally evolved into that company that can make $billion$ a year and figure why deal with customer service. This is just messed up. There's a hole in their system and they've allowed the bean counters to dictate customer service policies and figure that it may be easier to just pay people off than actually figure out what's flawed in their system. Well, it'll be that way until the find they're losing more money than they figured. Look at the feedback number of that seller. Wow, it's over 165,000. Surely those items could not all be ebay screw ups. Perhaps this is a place to see if lost items are being sold.

[Snapolit1]

Ha ha. Yes, pretty silly I agree.



QUOTE=Fred;2309199]Steve, no judgement here, but bwaaaaaaa hahahahaha,,,,,, just kidding.

Thank you for sharing the links. I think ebay has finally evolved into that company that can make $billion$ a year and figure why deal with customer service. This is just messed up. There's a hole in their system and they've allowed the bean counters to dictate customer service policies and figure that it may be easier to just pay people off than actually figure out what's flawed in their system. Well, it'll be that way until the find they're losing more money than they figured. Look at the feedback number of that seller. Wow, it's over 165,000. Surely those items could not all be ebay screw ups. Perhaps this is a place to see if lost items are being sold.[/QUOTE]

[Snapolit1]

New seller is in a small town in Michigan which appears like a possible / not completely illigcal place for this package to have ended up back at if it was in fact being rerouted back to Kentucky. However it originally went Kentucky to Cinncinnati OH to Ontartio.

And the ebay tracking data ends in Ontario. Doesn't document either delivery or shipment back to US.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

New seller is in a small town in Michigan which appears like a possible / not completely illigcal place for this package to have ended up back at if it was in fact being rerouted back to Kentucky. However it originally went Kentucky to Cinncinnati OH to Ontartio.

And the ebay tracking data ends in Ontario. Doesn't document either delivery or shipment back to US.

This is just insane !!!!

[Snapolit1]

Someone committed a felony and I presume a zero chance this will be pursued seriously by anyone.

[jiw98]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

New seller is in a small town in Michigan which appears like a possible / not completely illigcal place for this package to have ended up back at if it was in fact being rerouted back to Kentucky. However it originally went Kentucky to Cinncinnati OH to Ontartio.

And the ebay tracking data ends in Ontario. Doesn't document either delivery or shipment back to US.

Cass City, MI. is out in the middle of nowhere.

[rjackson44]

Thx for the link man. You cant make this shit up ,,glad it worked out for you man .octavio