Crazy eBay story

mrreality68 · #1 01-28-2023, 01:28 PM

That is nuts.

Just curious when you pursue it what is the potential end result since you were already paid and everything “worked out”?

Seven · #2 01-28-2023, 01:36 PM

Absolutely unbelievable. I had a slightly similar situation years ago when USPS misdelivered a 53 Bowman Mantle that I won off of Ebay. It ended up being put back up for sale by some guy in jersey. I got the listing taken down, received my money back, but would've much rather have gotten the card. I wonder what has happened to it, in the meantime.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #3 01-28-2023, 01:37 PM

holy crap. That is a special kind of nuts. Please keep us updated. If it is an inside thing I would say the major seller is unaware and just took it on consignment. Obviously any major seller who is complicit in stealing from ebay would make sure to get a new serial number before selling the card.

Snapolit1 · #4 01-28-2023, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

holy crap. That is a special kind of nuts. Please keep us updated. If it is an inside thing I would say the major seller is unaware and just took it on consignment. Obviously any major seller who is complicit in stealing from ebay would make sure to get a new serial number before selling the card.

That is my assumption too. Why I'm not giving any names.

Though would be a little weird if he doesn't respond to my "Hey, you are selling a recently stolen card" message.

Pat R · #5 01-28-2023, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

holy crap. That is a special kind of nuts. Please keep us updated. If it is an inside thing I would say the major seller is unaware and just took it on consignment. Obviously any major seller who is complicit in stealing from ebay would make sure to get a new serial number before selling the card.

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

That is my assumption too. Why I'm not giving any names.

Though would be a little weird if he doesn't respond to my "Hey, you are selling a recently stolen card" message.

I wouldn't be surprised there are some pretty dumb criminals. I'm not saying the seller is guilty but I would check some of the other items he has for sale and see if they were sold on ebay recently by someone else.

55koufax · #6 01-28-2023, 01:59 PM

This just confirms my feelings that eBay (like our "great" banks such as Chase, Citi, B of A, Wells, etc.) is one of the poorest run large companies on the planet.

Your eBay stories, my eBay stories, every serious collector's stories are so negatively insurmountable, it is a wonder how they exist?

I haven't even said anything about their "authenticity" program either. We know how everyone here feels about it already....

Pat R · #7 01-28-2023, 01:38 PM

I would absolutely report it because someone is a thief and even though you didn't get "ripped off" for the $2400 every honest seller and buyer gets ripped off a little bit by the thieves that do stuff like this.

Snapolit1 · #8 01-28-2023, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68

That is nuts.

Just curious when you pursue it what is the potential end result since you were already paid and everything �worked out�?

Yeah, it's odd. Will just report it and let people do whatever they want to.

Called eBay today and discussed. And told the seller he's attempting to sell a stolen card.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #9 01-28-2023, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Yeah, it's odd. Will just report it and let people do whatever they want to.

Called eBay today and discussed. And told the seller he's attempting to sell a stolen card.

No chance it happened in the "Authetication" Process? I think I remember that there is no authentication for shipments outside the US, but not positive.

Snapolit1 · #10 01-28-2023, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

No chance it happened in the "Authetication" Process? I think I remember that there is no authentication for shipments outside the US, but not positive.

No, was no authentication.

D. Bergin · #11 01-28-2023, 01:55 PM

Sucks that they froze your account. Should have been out of your hands the second it was accepted and signed for at the distribution center, if that was the Ebay address that was on file.

D. Bergin · #12 01-28-2023, 01:57 PM

Was the seller located in the same state as the distribution center?

Snapolit1 · #13 01-28-2023, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Was the seller located in the same state as the distribution center?

Had not thought of that. . . . no.

Snapolit1 · #14 01-28-2023, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Sucks that they froze your account. Should have been out of your hands the second it was accepted and signed for at the distribution center, if that was the Ebay address that was on file.

Agree. Was ridiculous. But there was like $146 in it and I tried not to let it bother me.

Lorewalker · #15 01-28-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

No, was no authentication.

Correct no AG program for out of the country sales or to those having PO Boxes as their destination shipping address.

Crazy situation and glad you are pursuing it. If you can let us know the outcome I would appreciate it. I am not shocked about what happened.

Snapolit1 · #16 01-28-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Correct no AG program for out of the country sales or to those having PO Boxes as their destination shipping address.

Crazy situation and glad you are pursuing it. If you can let us know the outcome I would appreciate it. I am not shocked about what happened.

I guess it shows when you ship expensive cards around the country (or world) it does not go unnoticed by others. . . .

Snapolit1 · #17 01-28-2023, 01:43 PM

Learned for the first time today that you cannot flag something on Ebay as stolen property unless you certify that you are law enforcement personnel.

Pat R · #18 01-28-2023, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Learned for the first time today that you cannot flag something on Ebay as stolen property unless you certify that you are law enforcement personnel.

If that's true then just report it as mail fraud.

Fred · #19 01-28-2023, 03:13 PM

If it were me, I wouldn't let it go.

It's understood that everyone is back to ground zero (whole) and only time was wasted, but this would just get under my skin to the point that I'd demand ebay to engage some how. Either have ebay set up an account and try to win the auction, or you win the auction. And then see how it plays out.

If ebay doesn't engage and acknowledge the issue, then that's problematic. If ebay allows this to occur because they don't want to chase it down (would rather cut a check and just accept it as a cost of doing business), then they really don't care about their buyer/seller community, they only care about counting beans and trying to ensure things balance out for them rather than doing the right thing to protect their consumers/sellers. You know it's going to continue to occur by the same criminal until they are caught and penalized.

jingram058 · #20 01-28-2023, 03:16 PM

In 690 deals on eBay as buyer and seller, I have had zero issues.

This goes down as one of the all-time worst experiences I have ever heard. I don't know how you kept your composure.

67airborne · #21 01-28-2023, 03:23 PM

I had something like this happen with eBay also. I sold a really nice Quaker Oats babe ruth picture on eBay. (There was a little written about it before on here)
I was told it needed to be sent to psa for eBay�s authentication program. Begrudgingly I sent it to them instead of the winning bidder. It seemed stupid at the time to mail it to them since I had just got it back a couple months prior. So the buyer paid and I mailed it back to psa. After a few weeks I wrote to the buyer and asked if it had been sent to him from eBay�s authenticator., because it showed it still being looked at. He said he hadn�t heard anything from them yet. I gave him a lot of credit at the time, because even as the seller my patients was long gone with the amount of time that passed. Finally after almost close to 2 months the buyer opened the claim with eBay and they froze my account as well. I wasn�t happy about it but wasn�t worried because I had all the proof I mailed it. In the end I got what the buyer bid on it and he got a refund from eBay. As a collector I was bummed for the buyer cause I know he wanted the picture and not his refund.

jingram058 · #22 01-28-2023, 04:05 PM

I have never just not received something mailed to me. Likewise, I have never sent something out that was not received. However, I have received things with obvious signs of tampering. Thus, I cannot help but wonder why the Post Office, UPS, FedEx, eBay and their "authentication service" cannot be coerced in some way into tightening up their own internal quality control. Once something is bar coded, accepted and tracking number assigned, why cannot their be another layer of accountability incorporated? Perhaps QC checks at every stop, and if the item shows any sign of tampering, it gets removed from the system, immediately, at that point in the process. Obviously, that level of due diligence and attention to detail is not in place at this time. Just as obviously, this level of service would cost, so assign this to high-dollar items, which are insured anyway, at whatever value, $1000? $2500? This would eliminate these items from going missing, lost or stolen, in my opinion, and would indicate that the culprit is their own employee, and who that employee is, airtight.

rjackson44 · #23 01-28-2023, 05:02 PM

Steve can you give us the link to this card ?.

Gorditadogg · #24 01-28-2023, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jingram058

I have never just not received something mailed to me. Likewise, I have never sent something out that was not received. However, I have received things with obvious signs of tampering. Thus, I cannot help but wonder why the Post Office, UPS, FedEx, eBay and their "authentication service" cannot be coerced in some way into tightening up their own internal quality control. Once something is bar coded, accepted and tracking number assigned, why cannot their be another layer of accountability incorporated? Perhaps QC checks at every stop, and if the item shows any sign of tampering, it gets removed from the system, immediately, at that point in the process. Obviously, that level of due diligence and attention to detail is not in place at this time. Just as obviously, this level of service would cost, so assign this to high-dollar items, which are insured anyway, at whatever value, $1000? $2500? This would eliminate these items from going missing, lost or stolen, in my opinion, and would indicate that the culprit is their own employee, and who that employee is, airtight.

This is a USPS issue, along with a million others, and it's anybody's guess why they can't get fixed.

Authentication items do get mailed to ebay under a select service level, but I couldn't tell you whether that makes any difference as far as if that increases their likelihood to get delivered.

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