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					Originally Posted by  Rhotchkiss
					 
				 
				There are a total of 62 M116 Blue Wagners on the combined PSA/SGC population report. That really is not a huge number, especially considering how many are in collections and not available for sale. By contrast, there are over 2,500, 1952 Topps Mantles on the combined PSA/SGC population report; and I am sure there are many more 52 Topps Mantles than blue M116 Wagners out there not reflected on the pop reports.  It seems there are 2-6, 1952 Mantles in every auction. 
 
According to VCP, the average price for a PSA 3, 1952 Topps Mantle is $66,500 (with sales ranging from $50k-$85k).  While I acknowledge the 1952 Mantle dwarfs the blue M116 Wagner in importance/cache, is it so odd that a card of Honus Wagner, which is 40 years older and way more scarce, sells for $13k less than the average sales price of a like-graded 1952 Topps mantle? 
 
I understand that does not answer your question, but it’s interesting to consider. 
			
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 Way too many instances in the hobby were scarcity plays no role in the eventual value of a card.  It always comes down to a demand for that card.  Maybe this new price point is just that--establishing a new demand for the M116s and other Wagner portrait cards.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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