The eBay - PSA Authentication Mandate 2.0

Gorditadogg · #1 12-19-2023, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnP0621

I believe that This authentication process will only be free for a limited time.
They are trying out this process at no charge for now, but someone will be paying for this down the road.

John P

I believe you are 100% wrong. How often do we need to have this same conversation.

raulus · #2 12-19-2023, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I believe you are 100% wrong. How often do we need to have this same conversation.

For as long as it takes!

That’s the beauty of a chat board. We can all argue about piffle until we are blue in the face, and it never gets old.

As long as eBay continues to offer it for free, then people will continue to worry that eventually they will charge for it.

I’m not sure I have a strong opinion either way. I see arguments on both sides. And with eBay, you never know what they’re thinking. So anything is possible.

Gorditadogg · #3 12-19-2023, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

For as long as it takes!

That�s the beauty of a chat board. We can all argue about piffle until we are blue in the face, and it never gets old.

As long as eBay continues to offer it for free, then people will continue to worry that eventually they will charge for it.

I�m not sure I have a strong opinion either way. I see arguments on both sides. And with eBay, you never know what they�re thinking. So anything is possible.

Yes, we've had good conversations on this before over the last two years, and there are plenty of members who still have new insights to share.

It's pretty easy to know what Ebay was thinking when they started this program, and easy to see it has been successful for them so far. They had a big problem with fraud on both the buyer and seller side that they needed to fix. It was costing them a lot of money in settlement expenses on disputed transactions, and also they were losing peoples' trust in their platform.

Ebay is most certainly aware that people don't like paying 15% transaction fees plus sales taxes. They are not thinking about ways to increase those fees.

I apologize to all of you who have heard all this before from me.

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Peter_Spaeth · #4 12-19-2023, 04:20 PM

Maybe can discuss SGC vs. PSA, or where the market is going?
Favorite T206 colors?
Undervalued cards?

raulus · #5 12-19-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe can discuss SGC vs. PSA, or where the market is going?
Favorite T206 colors?
Undervalued cards?

Seems like we're due for another discussion about favorite musicians!

G1911 · #6 12-19-2023, 04:41 PM

SGC Vs. PSA: PSA, case is marginally easier to crack open.

Where the market is going?: Inexorably upwards, forever and always. Stack your cards until it gets sky high.

Favorite T206 color: McIntyre Pink.

Undervalued Cards: All the ones I manage to win, evidently. Cards depicting anyone not a baseball player.

Favorite musicians: Today, David Ruffin.

Snapolit1 · #7 12-19-2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe can discuss SGC vs. PSA, or where the market is going?
Favorite T206 colors?
Undervalued cards?

Do I owe taxes if I didn�t get a 1099? Just wondering.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 12-19-2023, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Do I owe taxes if I didn�t get a 1099? Just wondering.

Which auction house should I consign to, or should I sell the cards myself?

Exhibitman · #9 12-20-2023, 09:46 AM

I am all for it, frankly.

As a buyer, I've come around to it because of some things I've seen. A friend of mine nearly got burned at a show with a fake 1963 Rose in a PSA holder. He bought it on faith in PSA across our table and when I got a good look at it and pulled out the loupe and microscope, it was clear that the seller was printing fake cards and flips and using resealed PSA holders to sell them. Since it was in person, my friend tracked down the seller to ask for his money back 'politely' and got paid, but on eBay he would have been screwed--unless the card went through authentication.

As a seller, I appreciate the rules that (1) make me not responsible for shipping snafus as long as the card got to the authenticator OK and (2) cut off returns once the card is authenticated.

There is a lot of bad stuff out there, whether it is concealed condition flaws, fake slabs, or fake cards. Hell, I bought a $200 fake last month and had to fight to get a refund, which I did ultimately via an eBay case that took over a month to complete. If the card had gone for authentication, it would have been caught immediately. As long as there isn't a cost to it (if they charge for it, definitely want the opt-out right), the program is a form of insurance against the most blatant frauds. It will have flubs but it will catch some bad stuff too, even if it takes an extra week or two for the card to get to me, which I don't think is a big deal. I'm not four years old; I won't pitch a hissy fit if I don't get my GI Joe with the kung fu grip right away, but I will if I open my package and the damn thing is broken.

Yoda · #10 12-20-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Which auction house should I consign to, or should I sell the cards myself?

Should I leave cookies and milk for Santa this year? The old rascal didn't even touch them last year.

JohnP0621 · #11 12-19-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I believe you are 100% wrong. How often do we need to have this same conversation.

You dont need to participate in the conversation.
No one asked for you to join in.
Read any Ebay Listing that has this Authentication process.
It reads "Free for a limited time".
So before you get on your High Horse and claim that I am 100% wrong you should read the fine print on the Ebay listings like I did.

John P

55koufax · #12 12-19-2023, 01:38 PM

I paid for a '59 Big Daddy Lipscomb in PSA 9 on 12-4. 4SC sends it off to PSA on 12-11. PSA still has my card and tracking sez I will get it 12-23. 19 days to rec one card I paid a lot of $$$ for is unacceptable. F eBay and this program. There is NO downside to giving buyers the option to send it off to PSA for DOUBLE their verification/authentication. All of the comments on this thread that say they love it can still use it if the buyer has the option. No downside for anyone. What happened to common sense?

notfast · #13 12-20-2023, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 55koufax

I paid for a '59 Big Daddy Lipscomb in PSA 9 on 12-4. 4SC sends it off to PSA on 12-11. PSA still has my card and tracking sez I will get it 12-23. 19 days to rec one card I paid a lot of $$$ for is unacceptable. F eBay and this program. There is NO downside to giving buyers the option to send it off to PSA for DOUBLE their verification/authentication. All of the comments on this thread that say they love it can still use it if the buyer has the option. No downside for anyone. What happened to common sense?

It took the seller 7 days to send it to PSA? Shouldn�t that be who you are annoyed with?

If you can�t see the downsides of opting out of the program, you obviously haven�t sold enough online or dealt with the general public in a retail setting before. I can think of multiple ways sellers and buyers would create headaches for eBay. Headaches that are, for the most part, avoided because this program exists.

Gorditadogg · #14 12-19-2023, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnP0621

You dont need to participate in the conversation.
No one asked for you to join in.
Read any Ebay Listing that has this Authentication process.
It reads "Free for a limited time".
So before you get on your High Horse and claim that I am 100% wrong you should read the fine print on the Ebay listings like I did.

John P

Haha, right. Like you are the first person on this site to do that.

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