The eBay - PSA Authentication Mandate 2.0

JohnP0621 · #1 12-19-2023, 05:16 AM

I believe that This authentication process will only be free for a limited time.
They are trying out this process at no charge for now, but someone will be paying for this down the road.

John P

Directly · #2 12-19-2023, 06:40 AM

Recently sold a card --shipping insured to authenticator USPS Fees comparison

Priority with insurance==$92.00

Registered with insurance==29.00

Why the difference per the PO employees--Registered is much safer hence the less insurance fee!

It takes a little longer to reach the authenticator but being safer and the price difference is a common sense no brainer.

jayshum · #3 12-19-2023, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnP0621

I believe that This authentication process will only be free for a limited time.
They are trying out this process at no charge for now, but someone will be paying for this down the road.

John P

People have been saying this since they started the authentication process. Looking back through emails, it started in March 2022 so it seems like they're not in a hurry to charge for it.

bnorth · #4 12-19-2023, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

People have been saying this since they started the authentication process. Looking back through emails, it started in March 2022 so it seems like they're not in a hurry to charge for it.

It starting with sneakers first and has been an awesome feature since October 2020. For those that don't know buying sneakers can be as sketchy as buying an autograph from Coaches Corner.

jayshum · #5 12-19-2023, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

It starting with sneakers first and has been an awesome feature since October 2020. For those that don't know buying sneakers can be as sketchy as buying an autograph from Coaches Corner.

Is there any charge to the buyer or seller for authenticating sneakers?

bnorth · #6 12-19-2023, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

Is there any charge to the buyer or seller for authenticating sneakers?

No and never has been. Since they started it I have no problems buying off eBay again. Before that I have been sent fake Nike sneakers on eBay. I actually wear them or I would have never caught the last pair of fakes I got. They were a special Nike Chinese New Years Edition. Even in hand they looked good. Then I put them on and took a couple steps and instantly knew they were fake. Seller refunded me. Since the authentication started I have seen way less fakes on eBay.

sonnyu2 · #7 12-19-2023, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

People have been saying this since they started the authentication process. Looking back through emails, it started in March 2022 so it seems like they're not in a hurry to charge for it.

Yep, I don't think eBay would ever charge a blanket fee for the program - the benefits of the program far outweigh the costs for them. The number of fraudulent transactions and unwarranted returns happening was costing eBay way more in time handling those cases, refunds they sometimes had to issue out of pocket, and lost transaction fees.

The only fee they might start to charge would be some sort of "transaction fee" to sellers who sell items that are either mis-categorized or mis-described and fail the authenticity program. There would never be a fee for the buyer.

As a seller and a buyer, I am 100% for the AG program. Having sent over 100 cards to the program as a seller, the process typically only adds 2 to 4 days to the transaction. It is usually a pretty straight-forward process when the seller does things correct on their end. Will the AG program make mistakes - definitely - it is a human controlled process. But, is it stopping fraud and false claims from both sellers and buyers - definitely.

Gorditadogg · #8 12-19-2023, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnP0621

I believe that This authentication process will only be free for a limited time.
They are trying out this process at no charge for now, but someone will be paying for this down the road.

John P

I believe you are 100% wrong. How often do we need to have this same conversation.

raulus · #9 12-19-2023, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I believe you are 100% wrong. How often do we need to have this same conversation.

For as long as it takes!

That’s the beauty of a chat board. We can all argue about piffle until we are blue in the face, and it never gets old.

As long as eBay continues to offer it for free, then people will continue to worry that eventually they will charge for it.

I’m not sure I have a strong opinion either way. I see arguments on both sides. And with eBay, you never know what they’re thinking. So anything is possible.

Gorditadogg · #10 12-19-2023, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

For as long as it takes!

That�s the beauty of a chat board. We can all argue about piffle until we are blue in the face, and it never gets old.

As long as eBay continues to offer it for free, then people will continue to worry that eventually they will charge for it.

I�m not sure I have a strong opinion either way. I see arguments on both sides. And with eBay, you never know what they�re thinking. So anything is possible.

Yes, we've had good conversations on this before over the last two years, and there are plenty of members who still have new insights to share.

It's pretty easy to know what Ebay was thinking when they started this program, and easy to see it has been successful for them so far. They had a big problem with fraud on both the buyer and seller side that they needed to fix. It was costing them a lot of money in settlement expenses on disputed transactions, and also they were losing peoples' trust in their platform.

Ebay is most certainly aware that people don't like paying 15% transaction fees plus sales taxes. They are not thinking about ways to increase those fees.

I apologize to all of you who have heard all this before from me.

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Peter_Spaeth · #11 12-19-2023, 04:20 PM

Maybe can discuss SGC vs. PSA, or where the market is going?
Favorite T206 colors?
Undervalued cards?

raulus · #12 12-19-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe can discuss SGC vs. PSA, or where the market is going?
Favorite T206 colors?
Undervalued cards?

Seems like we're due for another discussion about favorite musicians!

G1911 · #13 12-19-2023, 04:41 PM

SGC Vs. PSA: PSA, case is marginally easier to crack open.

Where the market is going?: Inexorably upwards, forever and always. Stack your cards until it gets sky high.

Favorite T206 color: McIntyre Pink.

Undervalued Cards: All the ones I manage to win, evidently. Cards depicting anyone not a baseball player.

Favorite musicians: Today, David Ruffin.

Snapolit1 · #14 12-19-2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe can discuss SGC vs. PSA, or where the market is going?
Favorite T206 colors?
Undervalued cards?

Do I owe taxes if I didn�t get a 1099? Just wondering.

Peter_Spaeth · #15 12-19-2023, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Do I owe taxes if I didn�t get a 1099? Just wondering.

Which auction house should I consign to, or should I sell the cards myself?

JohnP0621 · #16 12-19-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I believe you are 100% wrong. How often do we need to have this same conversation.

You dont need to participate in the conversation.
No one asked for you to join in.
Read any Ebay Listing that has this Authentication process.
It reads "Free for a limited time".
So before you get on your High Horse and claim that I am 100% wrong you should read the fine print on the Ebay listings like I did.

John P

55koufax · #17 12-19-2023, 01:38 PM

I paid for a '59 Big Daddy Lipscomb in PSA 9 on 12-4. 4SC sends it off to PSA on 12-11. PSA still has my card and tracking sez I will get it 12-23. 19 days to rec one card I paid a lot of $$$ for is unacceptable. F eBay and this program. There is NO downside to giving buyers the option to send it off to PSA for DOUBLE their verification/authentication. All of the comments on this thread that say they love it can still use it if the buyer has the option. No downside for anyone. What happened to common sense?

notfast · #18 12-20-2023, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 55koufax

I paid for a '59 Big Daddy Lipscomb in PSA 9 on 12-4. 4SC sends it off to PSA on 12-11. PSA still has my card and tracking sez I will get it 12-23. 19 days to rec one card I paid a lot of $$$ for is unacceptable. F eBay and this program. There is NO downside to giving buyers the option to send it off to PSA for DOUBLE their verification/authentication. All of the comments on this thread that say they love it can still use it if the buyer has the option. No downside for anyone. What happened to common sense?

It took the seller 7 days to send it to PSA? Shouldn�t that be who you are annoyed with?

If you can�t see the downsides of opting out of the program, you obviously haven�t sold enough online or dealt with the general public in a retail setting before. I can think of multiple ways sellers and buyers would create headaches for eBay. Headaches that are, for the most part, avoided because this program exists.

Gorditadogg · #19 12-19-2023, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnP0621

You dont need to participate in the conversation.
No one asked for you to join in.
Read any Ebay Listing that has this Authentication process.
It reads "Free for a limited time".
So before you get on your High Horse and claim that I am 100% wrong you should read the fine print on the Ebay listings like I did.

John P

Haha, right. Like you are the first person on this site to do that.

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