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This might help solve the greed issue with the billionaires….

https://www.givingpledge.org/


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U.S. citizens in Ireland pay taxes to the I.R.S. not the Irish authority. Corporate taxes are much cheaper.

As for the meme about Bezos, it is way off. He makes roughly $7.9 million per hour which is $189,600,00.00 per day.

Someone who travelled with Columbus: 533 years ago x 365 + 131 (leap days at 25 per 100 years) x $10,000 = $1,946,760,000.00
so it takes him 11 days, not a week. Completely changes the narrative...
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And by the way, who sets the tax code, Jeff, Elon, or Congress. Hmmmm...


That's one of the most naive comments I have ever read.
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so it takes him 11 days, not a week. Completely changes the narrative...
The original statement was incorrect. I was curious enough to check it. I strongly suspect that they meant to say Amazon, not Bezos. It it was true, based on those numbers, his personal wealth would be over $1 trillion. As of October there were 10 publicly traded companies valued at over $1 trillion. Amazon was in that group, but not the most valuable. There are no individuals with that large a personal wealth, excluding a certain person recently in the news.
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Holy BLEEP is this thread BLEEPING awesome. It reminds me of the Covid threads with one or two people posting insane things that make zero sense in the real world.

Lets be honest if you buy/sell baseball cards you need to reconsider calling anyone greedy or privileged.
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Let's be honest if you buy/sell baseball cards you need to reconsider calling anyone greedy or privileged.
Really?
You think there's no difference between a person with enough disposable income to buy a few "expensive" baseball cards, and Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk?
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Really?
You think there's no difference between a person with enough disposable income to buy a few "expensive" baseball cards, and Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk?
There is a huge difference between them. Just like the McDonalds and Walmart employees are way more overpaid than either Mr Bezos or Mr Musk. The low wage morons who think they deserve more are the problem and what is driving all the inflation.

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There is a huge difference between them. Just like the McDonalds and Walmart employees are way more overpaid than either Mr Bezos or Mr Musk. The low wage morons who think they deserve more are the problem and what is driving all the inflation.
Yeah. They're so overpaid that they need food stamps--and are eligible for them--in order to feed their families.

You're not worth talking to.

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You think Jeter's bad just see how much when Namath does a signing how much they get for him signing his 1965 Topps RC. And then all others before 1970 to be signed was $999.
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Yeah, right. It's not Jeter's f*cking greed. It's his "team." You know, the one he himself put in place.

He showed his incredible greed and sense of entitlement when he accepted his 3000th hit baseball (easily a $500,000 auction item at the time) from a starstruck moron in return for a signed jersey, and not even a game-used one. He should have, at the very least, paid that kid's college tuition. But no. Jeter was only taking what he was entitled to.

F*ck him and the horse he rode in on.
agreed.

In 1981, Tom Petty famously fought his record label, MCA, to prevent them from raising the price of his album "(Hard Promises)" from the standard $8.98 to $9.98. He threatened to withhold the album, stating that he wanted to keep costs low for his fans and prevent a precedent of "superstar pricing" where album prices would continue to rise. The label ultimately backed down and sold the album at the customary price.

Thanks Derek for NOTHING. AND you're a bore on TV and you and Brady are a festering Boil on the ASS of the hobby.
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Since Mr Jeter has made 100s of millions of dollars him signing for any price should be seen as him doing it for the fans. He isn't even making pocket change doing these signings and to see so many ungrateful people is sad, very sad.
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Since Mr Jeter has made 100s of millions of dollars him signing for any price should be seen as him doing it for the fans. He isn't even making pocket change doing these signings and to see so many ungrateful people is sad, very sad.
The argument then (and still) becomes: why doesn't he do it for less? If whatever his cut is from a minimum of $600 per autograph is so meaningless to him (I agree), why not cut that price down? Granted, it would still have to be high just for the sake of crowd control and his time, but how about a base price of $3-400? More people would jump on board, and if that money might be going to his charity, then more money stands a shot of being raised by the slight uptick in volume.

I don't think anyone has any reason to be "grateful" for his signing for money, regardless of the price. It's a business transaction, nothing more. "Oh, thank you, King Derek, for taking my money! I am not worthy!" Pfft.

Not to mention that most things signed at the base price don't really stand a shot of being great investments. If you want something to make money on, you're ponying up. Frankly, that is understandable and should be to anyone. Lowering the price of more pedestrian items such as balls, plaques, photos, and most cards would definitely make sense. Or, interested buyers are always free to simply pay less on the secondary market.

Some people might chime in with the rebuttal that the base price material does stand a chance at becoming a decent investment. If so, how long would we have to wait to see that happen? The popularity of Mantle never waned and all items have kept going up. Even so, certain lower-end pieces have often experienced longer periods of stagnation vs. nicer material. Outside of cream of the crop-type pieces, it feels like widespread Jetermania has really faded. With Jeter, the base price stuff, and even things such as certain RCs have really not fared that well over 20 years. If you want these items, they can still be had at pretty low prices relative to the $600 base price, and nearly all cards and most RCs for less than the four figures he charges now. Yes, due to the number of different card issues produced, if you have the desire for a certain card, some will pose a challenge to find, but is it worth $1100 to cross that name off your list, or will you wait and hope for something to pop up for $2-300 on the secondary market? And yes, in order to find the better prices, you may have to be confident enough in your knowledge and the source of the material in order to purchase some of the cards without authentication. It can be done, though.

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And here I was thinking I missed the boat with Carl Yastremski charging $195 for a card now, up from $100 when I sent in four years ago.



I guess I'm out then.
I found Yaz's summer address (way out in western MA) and sent him a card with a handwritten note, no $.

Got it back with a nice auto in less than 10 days.

Of course, this was back in 2003...
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"Oh, thank you, King Derek, for taking my money! I am not worthy!" Pfft.
Love it!
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Since Mr Jeter has made 100s of millions of dollars him signing for any price should be seen as him doing it for the fans. He isn't even making pocket change doing these signings and to see so many ungrateful people is sad, very sad.
Unf*ckingbelievable.

We're all being so rudely ungrateful to Mr. Jeter for taking the time--away from all the really important things he has to do--to sign his name a few times.

But the workers at Walmart and McDonalds, who actually do things that are needed by society (I don't think you're gonna restock the shelves at the Walmart supermarket, are you Ben? Especially during a pandemic.) are "overpaid," but still "low wage morons."

You're really quite a piece of work. (Or are you just a Musk-programmed bot? (Well, programmed by one of his engineers; Musk can't code.)

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The argument then (and still) becomes: why doesn't he do it for less? If whatever his cut is from a minimum of $600 per autograph is so meaningless to him (I agree), why not cut that price down? Granted, it would still have to be high just for the sake of crowd control and his time, but how about a base price of $3-400? More people would jump on board, and if that money might be going to his charity, then more money stands a shot of being raised by the slight uptick in volume.

I don't think anyone has any reason to be "grateful" for his signing for money, regardless of the price. It's a business transaction, nothing more. "Oh, thank you, King Derek, for taking my money! I am not worthy!" Pfft.

Not to mention that most things signed at the base price don't really stand a shot of being great investments. If you want something to make money on, you're ponying up. Frankly, that is understandable and should be to anyone. Lowering the price of more pedestrian items such as balls, plaques, photos, and most cards would definitely make sense. Or, interested buyers are always free to simply pay less on the secondary market.

Some people might chime in with the rebuttal that the base price material does stand a chance at becoming a decent investment. If so, how long would we have to wait to see that happen? The popularity of Mantle never waned and all items have kept going up. Even so, certain lower-end pieces have often experienced longer periods of stagnation vs. nicer material. Outside of cream of the crop-type pieces, it feels like widespread Jetermania has really faded. With Jeter, the base price stuff, and even things such as certain RCs have really not fared that well over 20 years. If you want these items, they can still be had at pretty low prices relative to the $600 base price, and nearly all cards and most RCs for less than the four figures he charges now. Yes, due to the number of different card issues produced, if you have the desire for a certain card, some will pose a challenge to find, but is it worth $1100 to cross that name off your list, or will you wait and hope for something to pop up for $2-300 on the secondary market? And yes, in order to find the better prices, you may have to be confident enough in your knowledge and the source of the material in order to purchase some of the cards without authentication. It can be done, though.
If he done it for less then all the people he is supporting by taking a cut would get less. So in reality it wouldn't hurt Jeter in the least but it would take cash out of the pockets of some of his employees and those putting on the show(s).
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If he done it for less then all the people he is supporting by taking a cut would get less. So in reality it wouldn't hurt Jeter in the least but it would take cash out of the pockets of some of his employees and those putting on the show(s).
He charges his fans outrageous prices, but it's all so that the poor show promotors can make ends meet, and put food on their tables, and roofs over their children's heads.

Whatta guy!
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