Greed - Page 2

chalupacollects · #51 11-25-2025, 07:25 PM

This might help solve the greed issue with the billionaires�.

https://www.givingpledge.org/

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Aquarian Sports Cards · #52 11-25-2025, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B

U.S. citizens in Ireland pay taxes to the I.R.S. not the Irish authority. Corporate taxes are much cheaper.

As for the meme about Bezos, it is way off. He makes roughly $7.9 million per hour which is $189,600,00.00 per day.

Someone who travelled with Columbus: 533 years ago x 365 + 131 (leap days at 25 per 100 years) x $10,000 = $1,946,760,000.00

so it takes him 11 days, not a week. Completely changes the narrative...

Aquarian Sports Cards · #53 11-25-2025, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

And by the way, who sets the tax code, Jeff, Elon, or Congress. Hmmmm...

That's one of the most naive comments I have ever read.

Michael B · #54 11-25-2025, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

so it takes him 11 days, not a week. Completely changes the narrative...

The original statement was incorrect. I was curious enough to check it. I strongly suspect that they meant to say Amazon, not Bezos. It it was true, based on those numbers, his personal wealth would be over $1 trillion. As of October there were 10 publicly traded companies valued at over $1 trillion. Amazon was in that group, but not the most valuable. There are no individuals with that large a personal wealth, excluding a certain person recently in the news.

bnorth · #55 11-26-2025, 07:15 AM

Holy BLEEP is this thread BLEEPING awesome. It reminds me of the Covid threads with one or two people posting insane things that make zero sense in the real world.

Lets be honest if you buy/sell baseball cards you need to reconsider calling anyone greedy or privileged.

David Atkatz · #56 11-26-2025, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Let's be honest if you buy/sell baseball cards you need to reconsider calling anyone greedy or privileged.

Really?
You think there's no difference between a person with enough disposable income to buy a few "expensive" baseball cards, and Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk?

bnorth · #57 11-26-2025, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Really?
You think there's no difference between a person with enough disposable income to buy a few "expensive" baseball cards, and Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk?

There is a huge difference between them. Just like the McDonalds and Walmart employees are way more overpaid than either Mr Bezos or Mr Musk. The low wage morons who think they deserve more are the problem and what is driving all the inflation.

David Atkatz · #58 11-26-2025, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

There is a huge difference between them. Just like the McDonalds and Walmart employees are way more overpaid than either Mr Bezos or Mr Musk. The low wage morons who think they deserve more are the problem and what is driving all the inflation.

Yeah. They're so overpaid that they need food stamps--and are eligible for them--in order to feed their families.

You're not worth talking to.

"No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

jakebeckleyoldeagleeye · #59 11-26-2025, 12:44 PM

You think Jeter's bad just see how much when Namath does a signing how much they get for him signing his 1965 Topps RC. And then all others before 1970 to be signed was $999.

Fuddjcal · #60 Yesterday, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Yeah, right. It's not Jeter's f*cking greed. It's his "team." You know, the one he himself put in place.

He showed his incredible greed and sense of entitlement when he accepted his 3000th hit baseball (easily a $500,000 auction item at the time) from a starstruck moron in return for a signed jersey, and not even a game-used one. He should have, at the very least, paid that kid's college tuition. But no. Jeter was only taking what he was entitled to.

F*ck him and the horse he rode in on.

agreed.

In 1981, Tom Petty famously fought his record label, MCA, to prevent them from raising the price of his album "(Hard Promises)" from the standard $8.98 to $9.98. He threatened to withhold the album, stating that he wanted to keep costs low for his fans and prevent a precedent of "superstar pricing" where album prices would continue to rise. The label ultimately backed down and sold the album at the customary price.

Thanks Derek for NOTHING. AND you're a bore on TV and you and Brady are a festering Boil on the ASS of the hobby.

bnorth · #61 Today, 07:19 AM

Since Mr Jeter has made 100s of millions of dollars him signing for any price should be seen as him doing it for the fans. He isn't even making pocket change doing these signings and to see so many ungrateful people is sad, very sad.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #62 Today, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Since Mr Jeter has made 100s of millions of dollars him signing for any price should be seen as him doing it for the fans. He isn't even making pocket change doing these signings and to see so many ungrateful people is sad, very sad.

The argument then (and still) becomes: why doesn't he do it for less? If whatever his cut is from a minimum of $600 per autograph is so meaningless to him (I agree), why not cut that price down? Granted, it would still have to be high just for the sake of crowd control and his time, but how about a base price of $3-400? More people would jump on board, and if that money might be going to his charity, then more money stands a shot of being raised by the slight uptick in volume.

I don't think anyone has any reason to be "grateful" for his signing for money, regardless of the price. It's a business transaction, nothing more. "Oh, thank you, King Derek, for taking my money! I am not worthy!" Pfft.

Not to mention that most things signed at the base price don't really stand a shot of being great investments. If you want something to make money on, you're ponying up. Frankly, that is understandable and should be to anyone. Lowering the price of more pedestrian items such as balls, plaques, photos, and most cards would definitely make sense. Or, interested buyers are always free to simply pay less on the secondary market.

Some people might chime in with the rebuttal that the base price material does stand a chance at becoming a decent investment. If so, how long would we have to wait to see that happen? The popularity of Mantle never waned and all items have kept going up. Even so, certain lower-end pieces have often experienced longer periods of stagnation vs. nicer material. Outside of cream of the crop-type pieces, it feels like widespread Jetermania has really faded. With Jeter, the base price stuff, and even things such as certain RCs have really not fared that well over 20 years. If you want these items, they can still be had at pretty low prices relative to the $600 base price, and nearly all cards and most RCs for less than the four figures he charges now. Yes, due to the number of different card issues produced, if you have the desire for a certain card, some will pose a challenge to find, but is it worth $1100 to cross that name off your list, or will you wait and hope for something to pop up for $2-300 on the secondary market? And yes, in order to find the better prices, you may have to be confident enough in your knowledge and the source of the material in order to purchase some of the cards without authentication. It can be done, though.

7nohitter · #63 Today, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by egri

And here I was thinking I missed the boat with Carl Yastremski charging $195 for a card now, up from $100 when I sent in four years ago.

I guess I'm out then.

I found Yaz's summer address (way out in western MA) and sent him a card with a handwritten note, no $.

Got it back with a nice auto in less than 10 days.

Of course, this was back in 2003...

David Atkatz · #64 Today, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

"Oh, thank you, King Derek, for taking my money! I am not worthy!" Pfft.

Love it!

David Atkatz · #65 Today, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Since Mr Jeter has made 100s of millions of dollars him signing for any price should be seen as him doing it for the fans. He isn't even making pocket change doing these signings and to see so many ungrateful people is sad, very sad.

Unf*ckingbelievable.

We're all being so rudely ungrateful to Mr. Jeter for taking the time--away from all the really important things he has to do--to sign his name a few times.

But the workers at Walmart and McDonalds, who actually do things that are needed by society (I don't think you're gonna restock the shelves at the Walmart supermarket, are you Ben? Especially during a pandemic.) are "overpaid," but still "low wage morons."

You're really quite a piece of work. (Or are you just a Musk-programmed bot? (Well, programmed by one of his engineers; Musk can't code.)

bnorth · #66 Today, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

The argument then (and still) becomes: why doesn't he do it for less? If whatever his cut is from a minimum of $600 per autograph is so meaningless to him (I agree), why not cut that price down? Granted, it would still have to be high just for the sake of crowd control and his time, but how about a base price of $3-400? More people would jump on board, and if that money might be going to his charity, then more money stands a shot of being raised by the slight uptick in volume.

I don't think anyone has any reason to be "grateful" for his signing for money, regardless of the price. It's a business transaction, nothing more. "Oh, thank you, King Derek, for taking my money! I am not worthy!" Pfft.

Not to mention that most things signed at the base price don't really stand a shot of being great investments. If you want something to make money on, you're ponying up. Frankly, that is understandable and should be to anyone. Lowering the price of more pedestrian items such as balls, plaques, photos, and most cards would definitely make sense. Or, interested buyers are always free to simply pay less on the secondary market.

Some people might chime in with the rebuttal that the base price material does stand a chance at becoming a decent investment. If so, how long would we have to wait to see that happen? The popularity of Mantle never waned and all items have kept going up. Even so, certain lower-end pieces have often experienced longer periods of stagnation vs. nicer material. Outside of cream of the crop-type pieces, it feels like widespread Jetermania has really faded. With Jeter, the base price stuff, and even things such as certain RCs have really not fared that well over 20 years. If you want these items, they can still be had at pretty low prices relative to the $600 base price, and nearly all cards and most RCs for less than the four figures he charges now. Yes, due to the number of different card issues produced, if you have the desire for a certain card, some will pose a challenge to find, but is it worth $1100 to cross that name off your list, or will you wait and hope for something to pop up for $2-300 on the secondary market? And yes, in order to find the better prices, you may have to be confident enough in your knowledge and the source of the material in order to purchase some of the cards without authentication. It can be done, though.

If he done it for less then all the people he is supporting by taking a cut would get less. So in reality it wouldn't hurt Jeter in the least but it would take cash out of the pockets of some of his employees and those putting on the show(s).

David Atkatz · #67 Today, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

If he done it for less then all the people he is supporting by taking a cut would get less. So in reality it wouldn't hurt Jeter in the least but it would take cash out of the pockets of some of his employees and those putting on the show(s).

He charges his fans outrageous prices, but it's all so that the poor show promotors can make ends meet, and put food on their tables, and roofs over their children's heads.

Whatta guy!

bnorth · #68 Today, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

He charges his fans outrageous prices, but it's all so that the poor show promotors can make ends meet, and put food on their tables, and roofs over their children's heads.

Whatta guy!

You seem extremely jealous of those who have made something of themselves. Nothing against the fine workers who ask if you want fries with that or nicely welcome you to Walmart but you can't compare them to people like Elon and Jeff. One group does a job pretty much anyone with a heartbeat can do. The other employ thousands of workers and contribute greatly to all those "free" thing many take advantage of like roads, police, and countless other things we all use.
One pushes inflation by constantly wanting more and not understanding their wage increase directly causes inflation. It is amazing how most everyday low level employees can't understand how paying them more makes the product cost more.

As to Jeter, he is doing his actual fans a great service. I get that the flippers are pissed because they can't instantly flip his auto for a profit and it pisses them off. Now I bet the real fans who only want it because it came from Jeter while they watched him sign it will keep lining up for the experience. I get paying extra for an experience. Kinda like the $12 soda at the game. It is just part of the price of the experience.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #69 Today, 03:23 PM

Ben,

You have to be pulling our legs for your own personal amusement. Please just admit it for the sake of my sanity.

I've read many of your other posts and they strike me as almost coming from a different person.

balltrash · #70 Today, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

He charges his fans outrageous prices, but it's all so that the poor show promotors can make ends meet, and put food on their tables, and roofs over their children's heads.

Whatta guy!

While I agree that the prices have gotten out of hand there is one and only one thing driving the whole thing down the road - people (fans) are willing to pay. And they are lining up to do it. It is insane what is charged and crazier still that people pay it but they do. Over and over again.

So I begrudge no one for asking what they (or their people) do. And adding to the mix that MANY pieces which people pay exorbitant amounts to have autographed are then resold at a profit than who really is to blame?

And David, since you like to get so technical in what you say and your interpretations of what others do too - no show promoter is paying their bills off a Jeter signing. He does not make appearances like that. So actually, it nearly all flows back to he and his people. He has eliminated the middle man. And I don't think any less of him for it. And evidently the people who keep paying don't either.

David Atkatz · #71 Today, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

You seem extremely jealous of those who have made something of themselves. Nothing against the fine workers who ask if you want fries with that or nicely welcome you to Walmart but you can't compare them to people like Elon and Jeff. One group does a job pretty much anyone with a heartbeat can do.

Kind of like yourself.

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Originally Posted by bnorth

The other employ thousands of workers and contribute greatly to all those "free" thing many take advantage of like roads, police, and countless other things we all use.

Oh, really? And just how do they do that? They certainly don't build any. Nor do they pay taxes so that the government may construct and/or repair them.

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Originally Posted by bnorth

One pushes inflation by constantly wanting more and not understanding their wage increase directly causes inflation. It is amazing how most everyday low level employees can't understand how paying them more makes the product cost more.

Interesting. Desiring a living wage, one that doesn't require government assistance to feed their families, pay their rent, or heat their homes, is the major cause of inflation.

I will quote again, because it has universal and timeless relevance:

"No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth

As to Jeter, he is doing his actual fans a great service. I get that the flippers are pissed because they can't instantly flip his auto for a profit and it pisses them off. Now I bet the real fans who only want it because it came from Jeter while they watched him sign it will keep lining up for the experience. I get paying extra for an experience. Kinda like the $12 soda at the game. It is just part of the price of the experience.

Said bending over: "Thank you sir! May I have another?"

David Atkatz · #72 Today, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Now I bet the real fans who only want it because it came from Jeter while they watched him sign it will keep lining up for the experience. I get paying extra for an experience. Kinda like the $12 soda at the game. It is just part of the price of the experience.

One day in the summer of 1966 I met Mickey Mantle outside Yankee Stadium. It was about the seventh inning, he had left the game early, showered, dressed, and walked out. No one there but him and me. He signed a baseball for me, got in his car and drove away. It was an experience I haven't forgotten these past fifty-nine years. And unless I develop dementia, I doubt I'll ever forget.

Standing in line after having paid my money, finally getting to stand in front of my seated hero while he signs whatever is put in front of him without looking up, and then quickly moving on? An experience I'd much rather forget. And probably will.

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