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05-03-2012, 01:44 PM
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I though the card was altered after 85. Then slabbed by none other than PSA
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05-03-2012, 01:55 PM
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but before 1985 anyone have any new info about the provenance of the card ?
the fact that the card was altered or trimmed is only speculation, theorie , no ?
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05-03-2012, 02:08 PM
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I have not seen anything tracing it back beyond Alan Ray.
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05-03-2012, 02:11 PM
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Ray would not say where he acquired the card, to this day keeping mum about what the card was up to between 1909 and 1986. He was forced to sell it because of "a money situation," Ray was quoted as saying in a 2001 New York Daily News article by O'Keeffe and colleague Bill Madden, which first traced the buying-and-selling history of the card.
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...#ixzz1tq6cQO1M
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05-03-2012, 02:24 PM
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Last edited by Pup6913; 05-03-2012 at 02:25 PM.
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05-03-2012, 02:41 PM
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Lololol i really love your comparaison hehe If what you said is 100% true, you probably have 0 confidence into psa? Last edited by g_vezina_c55; 05-03-2012 at 02:42 PM.
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05-03-2012, 02:51 PM
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Edit: there is also a video interview with PSA grader stating that he knew the card was hand cut. he felt the card was too nice to reject grading. There was no auth grading by them back then, I think. Last edited by Matthew H; 05-03-2012 at 02:55 PM.
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05-03-2012, 03:04 PM
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He may well be right, and I think most people would agree with him, but Andrew has no first-hand knowledge, so he is just "speculating" as is everyone else.
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05-03-2012, 05:58 PM
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Finishing the Story of Provenance
The provenance of "The Card" is incomplete without mentioning that I personally saw "The Card" at a preview of the Sotheby's auction in 1991
in Beverly Hills. Just one of many investment opportunities that I failed to act upon. I think I bought some Upper Deck packs that day.
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