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Old 05-20-2025, 02:48 PM
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Does PSA give favoritism to certain dealers/customers or on very rare high grade cards?
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Old 05-20-2025, 03:02 PM
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Yes.

Vintage Card Curator on YouTube has done some great videos on this. The Rickey Henderson and Eddie Murray RC’s come to mind.
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Old 05-20-2025, 03:17 PM
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Yep. The notion began with their first graded card.

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Old 05-20-2025, 06:31 PM
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All submitters are equal.


Some are more equal than others.

aka. my rule of Animal Farm grading
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Old 05-20-2025, 06:59 PM
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How do I get on the list to be more equal?
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Old 05-20-2025, 07:15 PM
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In a word, YES. How about the other TPG’s?
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Old 05-21-2025, 03:47 PM
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Old 05-21-2025, 04:08 PM
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I would hope the TPGs have a "blind" system in place whereby the graders have no other information other than the card in front of them. I might be dreaming, but it would crazy for it to be any other way, both from an ethical and a business standpoint, it seems to me.
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I would hope the TPGs have a "blind" system in place whereby the graders have no other information other than the card in front of them. I might be dreaming, but it would crazy for it to be any other way, both from an ethical and a business standpoint, it seems to me.
Well they that is the myth that was spun since day 1...that grading is anonymous. Not even close from what I have been told by people who are more involved in the hobby than I am and for much longer. The other myth is that 3 graders see each card. Maybe a T206 Wagner has 3 sets of eyes but a 1968 Topps Drysdale has at best one full sets of eyes for 10 seconds.
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So on the Gretzgy Wagner - It sounds like the entire world believes that it is not a legitimate "8"

Is that correct?

To me - a grade of 8 on that card is not a stretch - What am I missing?
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So on the Gretzgy Wagner - It sounds like the entire world believes that it is not a legitimate "8"

Is that correct?

To me - a grade of 8 on that card is not a stretch - What am I missing?
I think the issue with that card in particular is that it is trimmed, and was known to be trimmed when PSA graded it.
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So on the Gretzgy Wagner - It sounds like the entire world believes that it is not a legitimate "8"

Is that correct?

To me - a grade of 8 on that card is not a stretch - What am I missing?

The PSA grader for that Wagner was Bill Hughes, an individual who was mistrusted by a large portion of the comic book collecting hobby (Hughes was a vintage comic book dealer). I believe he later admitted that he knew the card had been trimmed.
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Bravo...that was perfect!
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Does PSA give favoritism to certain dealers/customers or on very rare high grade cards?
I think the answer to the original question is yes, but I can't prove it. I also agree with the assertion that there are certain cards that PSA refuses to grade any more 10's of in order to keep the PSA10 a rarity (think key 1980's rookie cards). However, I also can't offer proof of this. It's more of an observation. I can only point to the number of examples submitted versus the number of PSA10's graded.

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Old 05-26-2025, 02:45 PM
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How about those collectors that are at the top of their set or player registry of top vintage sets or top vintage players. I absolutely believe they get preferential treatment. Maybe not all the time, but often enough.
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Old 05-26-2025, 02:55 PM
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I can assure you from personal experience, that is not true.
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How about those collectors that are at the top of their set or player registry of top vintage sets or top vintage players. I absolutely believe they get preferential treatment. Maybe not all the time, but often enough.
Can’t speak for all of us registry goons, but 95% of my Mays collection was purchased already graded. The small handful of pieces that are impossible to find already graded that I have purchased raw and then submitted have mostly graded at 1, with a few that pop all the way up to 3 or 4 on rare occasions.
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Can’t speak for all of us registry goons, but 95% of my Mays collection was purchased already graded.
I did the same thing when I started collecting Kobe rookie cards. I knew I would never get the grade I wanted if I submitted it myself, so I just bought cards already graded.
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Ok lets spin this a different way

Does the tier ie cost of grading impact the grade. When I had my store I had a customer tell me that if I would up charge the card he had heard the grades come back higher.

So this $500 card I could grade at the $50 or the $100 level. Does the level ie price paid to grade the card impact the grades...

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