Ron and Khyber Oser leave Legendary for Huggins

[Peter_Spaeth]

subtitle, Khyber takes a pass.
May not bode well for the future of Legendary?

[keithsky]

I don't blame these guys for leaving Legendary. If I worked there I would get out before they implode. Working for a company that has all the contoversy I wouldn't want to deal with all the crap that is going on over there. If the guys that run Legendary go to jail you'd be looking for a job anyway so you might as well move on now.

[Fred]

I used to like Ron Oser's auctions. I think I still have an auction catalog or two from his auctions. The sad part is the "guilt by association" stigma of workingfor Legendary (Mastro and MastroNet).

Good move for the Osers!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

May not bode well for the future of Legendary?

Understatement of the century. When Doug Allen isn't obstructing justice, ripping off his friends and double-crossing the FBI, he's not getting the consignments that Mastro/Legendary used to get. Somehow I think the hobby can live without an auction house specializing in Horrors of War cards.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Understatement of the century. When Doug Allen isn't obstructing justice, ripping off his friends and double-crossing the FBI, he's not getting the consignments that Mastro/Legendary used to get. Somehow I think the hobby can live without an auction house specializing in Horrors of War cards.

I had no idea they were still up and running...got dropped from the catalog list long ago...was surprised to see someone make a "Legendary pickups" thread. Who in their right mind would feel safe consigning to that outfit at this point..they have to be awful close to sentencing.

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I had no idea they were still up and running...got dropped from the catalog list long ago...was surprised to see someone make a "Legendary pickups" thread. Who in their right mind would feel safe consigning to that outfit at this point..they have to be awful close to sentencing.

And who in their right mind would continue to be part of the problem instead of the solution by consigning or bidding in their auctions anyway? Time for collectors to clean up the hobby. If not us, then who?

I've been boycotting Legendary for a year and encourage everybody to just stop bidding. No bids = out of business.

jeff

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

And who in their right mind would continue to be part of the problem instead of the solution by consigning or bidding in their auctions anyway? Time for collectors to clean up the hobby. If not us, then who?

I've been boycotting Legendary for a year and encourage everybody to just stop bidding. No bids = out of business.

jeff

Bill and Doug stole plenty of money for themselves by shill bidding their own auctions and committing all sorts of other fraud; however, plenty of consignors conspired with them by shilling up their own lots, knowing they could get away with it with Doug and Bill at the helm of Mastro. So you ask for collectors to clean up the hobby when it is the collectors themselves who are part of the fraud as well.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Bill and Doug stole plenty of money for themselves by shill bidding their own auctions and committing all sorts of other fraud; however, plenty of consignors conspired with them by shilling up their own lots, knowing they could get away with it with Doug and Bill at the helm of Mastro. So you ask for collectors to clean up the hobby when it is the collectors themselves who are part of the fraud as well.

My guess is that MOST consignors shill their own auctions, regardless of the auction house. It would be great if, as collectors, we gave all of our support to the auction houses that show that they do their best to prevent consignor shilling, but all consignors have to do to get around that is find friends to bid on their items.

So you are left with policing the actual auction house. That's been done to Legendary in a substantial way, so I would think they are now one of the least likely to shill their own auctions.

[turtleguy64]

Jeff,no surprise here.Their veep Jeff Marren did the intro of their just completed auction catalogue.It sounded like his goodbye.Now the Osers gone,leaving a rudderless ship.We may have seen the last of Legendary.and to boot a now brewing controversy as they pulled their feature item-rookie Gretsky game uniform -out of the catalogue just as the final day of bidding was starting. It's over.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

And who in their right mind would continue to be part of the problem instead of the solution by consigning or bidding in their auctions anyway? Time for collectors to clean up the hobby. If not us, then who?

I've been boycotting Legendary for a year and encourage everybody to just stop bidding. No bids = out of business.

jeff

The Legendary employees who were convicted are going to prison. The ones who weren't are trying to get an auction house back on its feet. I don't see how punishing the remaining employees serves any purpose.

[Fred]

Jeff,

You're right about bidders shilling their own lots. I knew someone that told me they were doing just that. I was dumbfounded when I heard that.

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Runscott

The Legendary employees who were convicted are going to prison. The ones who weren't are trying to get an auction house back on its feet. I don't see how punishing the remaining employees serves any purpose.

Ummm. Who owns Legendary?

jeff

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

subtitle, Khyber takes a pass.
May not bode well for the future of Legendary?