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Old 11-21-2014, 07:23 PM
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I am willing to give the vast majority of the members of this forum credit for believing shilling their own auctions is wrong.

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I wish this were true but I don't think it is. Yes, most collectors who don't consign cards believe shilling is bad; many who do consign expensive cards either engage in shill bidding or condone it. I would guess easily more than half.
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I wish this were true but I don't think it is. Yes, most collectors who don't consign cards believe shilling is bad; many who do consign expensive cards either engage in shill bidding or condone it. I would guess easily more than half.
Jeff-you can rule me out big time. I just lost my ass on several T206s with Robert Edwards (it will be the last time with that auction) in their Fall auction. Maybe I'm an idiot....
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Kevin, hard for me to believe you would have done better elsewhere. I am guessing REA attracts more eyes than anyone.
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Kevin, hard for me to believe you would have done better elsewhere. I am guessing REA attracts more eyes than anyone.
Peter- You're probably right. My wording may have been slightly unclear. I didn't mean never consigning again with REA (they are one of the best), I meant that particular Fall auction vs. their Spring auction. I may be wrong, but it seems that the Spring brings better money....
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Kevin, I come up short just as often in the fall as the spring auction.
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Jeff-you can rule me out big time. I just lost my ass on several T206s with Robert Edwards (it will be the last time with that auction) in their Fall auction. Maybe I'm an idiot....
It's not the auction house's fault when they refuse to shill up a card, unfortunately. I got creamed in Al's auction on a card and it was due to three factors: a) I bought the card in a Doug Allen auction and was defrauded then; b) I didn't engage in shill bidding when I sold it; c) Al didn't engage in shill bidding during the auction.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:31 AM
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Always liked Ron. I'm sorry, but I didn't know of Khyber.

Sounds like the ship is going down.
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