Arod Ties Gehrig

[Jay Wolt]

Quite the feat

[Seiklis]

Thought Manny had it easy, but he broke down faster than I expected

Hats off to Arod

[irishdenny]

Although I am Not an ARod Hater...
Lou did it with the Babe in Front of Him!

However, Tieing Lou Gehrig under any conditions is still "BRILLIANT".

I Love this Game...

[Tomman1961]

Sorry. No "Hat's Off "to Alex Rodriguez. A user. He is a disgrace. This is why I collect pre-WW2 cards. As the years go by I get increasingly disenchanted with baseball of today. I could ramble on about Lou. CLASS. Him tying this record disgusts me.

[packs]

I'm on the who cares side of this. A-rod is a cheater. He should be ashamed of himself and so should any sports writer who mentions his name next to Gehrig's. Lou was a true champion who played with grace and determination. A-rod is a cheater without any respect for the history or tradition of the game that allows him to make a living. It would be like if some cheater broke Aaron's record. Oh, wait a second....

[yanks12025]

I can't believe how many of you are grumpy over this. I know a-rod cheated and I hate that he did, but it's still amazing to hit 23 grand slams. With the most home runs, I hate Barry Bonds. Also Gehrig is my favorite player!

Also to the user who said we should take stats away from the years they used, so do we take away wins from the teams because they may not have won from if it wasn't for their runs.

[drc]

According to my unbiased calculations, if he didn't use steroids ARod would have had -3 grand slams.

[Vegas-guy]

This thread makes laugh!! All you "haters"!!! did some people use "performance enhancing drugs" YES! Is it wrong YES! now that being said the players still have to be talented! Could they have done it without? Who knows??? And sure there are a great many players that did it all by the book. BUT how many of the other players (pre record keeping the way it is now) cheated in some way??? How is it so different from a pitcher scuffing, spitting or tampering with the ball? We all know it happened, and what about all the thing we dont know! Now maybe that's not a drug but it's still a way of trying to get an edge!

They were all part of a time in history and new things will happen in the future, take it for what it is and relax! Just enjoy the game..

Just my .02 cents..

[drc]

I disclose that I dislike both ARod and the Yankees. However, I would have similar sentiments for any player who used steroids . . . Unless the player was on my team. But that's a given. Those home runs ARod hit for the Mariners? Those were on the up and up. It was Arlington that made him turn bad.

(For those who don't realize, I live in Seattle. My jokes require context.)

[HRBAKER]

He cheated, he lied about it and he hit 23 grand slams. Good for him.
Nobody is saying he's not talented. It was he who must have thought he wasn't talented enough.

Oh I forgot, as we learned earlier in the thread, ALL of the pitchers were using too.

[packs]

There was a cool PED article in the last Sports Illustrated. It followed 4 players drafted into the same system (Twins) one of which used PEDs. Three of the four topped out at Triple A. One of the four had a 4 year major league career and was on a World Series championship team.

[FrankWakefield]

An Epiphany about performance enhancing drugs and modern baseball; I don't know why this didn't occur to me a few years ago. Here's what will eventually happen.

The pitchers and position players from the ARod, Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa, Giambi (I'll stop there, but obviously we could all add to that list) era, none of them will get into the Hall in the near future. We fans, and the sportswriters, are still a bit sore about the whole thing. The sportswriters will not vote for them because the 4th estate deems themselves competent to mete out punishment (fools that they are). But eventually, with the passage of about 2 more decades, a movement will start. It will say that the Hall is incomplete, for they've overlooked those good stars that played the game at the beginning of the 21st century. Good players, overlooked and left out. The movement will say that the pitchers who used PED's were having to pitch to players using PED's, and conversely, and so their statistics are a wash. It's not like only pitchers got to use PED's, or only batters got to use PED's. So the stats stand... besides, some of what was used was legal at the time. So in fairness to all, and to have the Hall be complete, they'll put some of those guys in. A few of us will be gone then, some won't have wits enough to realize its happened, a few won't care, and a few will write a letter to someone (if they still have letters then), or tweet or email or something. But it won't matter. They'll all be in the Hall, except for maybe Roger, because of his trial...

[Splinte1941]

Fortunately for Gehrig, his record will stand in the eyes of common sense and fairness, and reality. He didn't need to take PED's to hit any of his 23 grand slams.