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Old 06-18-2012, 08:52 AM
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What smoke? you honestly sound like you are accusing the auction of shilling, as in "Where there's smoke, there's fire". I personally have known Henry a long time and he always struck me as an honest man.

I do agree that prices are WILD on stuff, but I notice guys like Scott Gaynor, Jon Richmond and others get high prices relative to m arket, IMO too. They don't have the overall quality of Henry's tho.

IF you have a serious complaint like that, and what u wrote on the other thread, you need to show proof IMO

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:15 PM
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I didn't mean for this to be a negative thread.
Sure, I'm a little disappointed, but I'll live. It happens and you move on.
I'm sure I'll find another sometime in the future.
I am not accusing Henry of any misbehavior. The couple of times I interacted with him have been very positive.

I really would love to see others winnings.
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What smoke? you honestly sound like you are accusing the auction of shilling, as in "Where there's smoke, there's fire". I personally have known Henry a long time and he always struck me as an honest man.

I do agree that prices are WILD on stuff, but I notice guys like Scott Gaynor, Jon Richmond and others get high prices relative to m arket, IMO too. They don't have the overall quality of Henry's tho.

IF you have a serious complaint like that, and what u wrote on the other thread, you need to show proof IMO

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I agree. It's one thing to always just act like an ass-wipe. It's another thing to claim someone shill bid or even insinuate it. I say put up or shut the F*** up. And if you never have anything positive to add to the forum then please go away.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:00 PM
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Some of the stuff posted on the main forum gives reason to pause (bidders with multiple feedbacks who've never bid with anyone else) but I've never had a problem with him. Looking through some of his Chuck Klein card auctions, I thought prices were very fair.....(6) E285 Rittenhouse cards for a couple hundred bucks seems fair to low. There were some baseball bat pencils that went low. Some went high. I don't follow the photo wars but that seems to be where much of the 'rub' is so I don't know. He got HUGE dollar for a plastic baseball bat bank that would routinely sell on ebay for $40-$60 and sold for $200+. Don't know. Agree that Gaynor, Richmond and others get more than retail for stuff and no one presents the items better than Henry, so it be what it be! Congrats to winners...........
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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Jeez, it's similar to a buyer who decides they're going to spend their money one month on a Leland's auction or a Legendary auction.

Bid history only goes back 30 days in the % field.

I've also noticed a few A-holes in the last couple months using bid retractions to screw around with both bidders and sellers of auctions lately.

Wish Ebay would just make Bidder ID's public again and/or start coming down hard on habitual retractions.

I blocked one guy last week who had about 80 retractions in the last several months and only a couple auctions won. He did it to one of my auctions and retracted a bid before any other bids came in. I did a little investigating and found he was doing this to multiple sellers............running up bids to check the high bid out..............retracting it back to the previous level. Just being a plain sh*t. I blocked him right away.

Ebay just doesn't seem to care about retraction history.
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Here is my gavelsnipe snipe below....$173.11 below my max.

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If a Henry Yee auction ever goes off without shill bidding accusations it will be a first. I don't know either way, but he does get crazy money for items that no one else is able to get. Insane bidders, shill bidding or whatever..it is what it is...if you want to win something from Henry Yee you better be prepared to pay higher than market price.

I actually think the shill bidding accusations are so legendary at this point that people place higher than usual bids thinking that the only way they can win is the beat the shill when in reality legitimate bidders are running each other up out of fear.
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I am not accusing anyone of anything (I've posted this before) but the prices realized on pretty common publications are extraordinary. The only thing that I can think of is that people want to say that they were the high bidder in a Henry Yee auction?

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I said basically the same thing in the other thread, but I'll repeat it here: quality merchandise, clear/detailed photos and scans, and knowledgable descriptions will typically translate to higher prices realized.

If you're used to shopping sellers with 1-line descriptions and fuzzy satellite images that rely on you already knowing what it is you're looking at to fill in the details, you may well have sticker shock (or gavel shock in this case, I guess). If putting in the extra effort into presenting the items attractively and thoroughly DIDN'T translate to higher prices realized, why would anyone put forth the effort? HARD WORK THAT PAYS OFF ISN'T A SCAM.
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I said basically the same thing in the other thread, but I'll repeat it here: quality merchandise, clear/detailed photos and scans, and knowledgable descriptions will typically translate to higher prices realized.

If you're used to shopping sellers with 1-line descriptions and fuzzy satellite images that rely on you already knowing what it is you're looking at to fill in the details, you may well have sticker shock (or gavel shock in this case, I guess). If putting in the extra effort into presenting the items attractively and thoroughly DIDN'T translate to higher prices realized, why would anyone put forth the effort? HARD WORK THAT PAYS OFF ISN'T A SCAM.
On rare or one of a kind items I understand this, but he gets ridiculous prices for extremely common items. I don't know how he does it, but he does it.
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On rare or one of a kind items I understand this, but he gets ridiculous prices for extremely common items. I don't know how he does it, but he does it.
I really think bidders who get pushed off the more expensive items end up bidding on the secondary material.

There is definitely something to be said for surrounding weaker material with very strong material. The good stuff tends to help drive the bidding on the weaker stuff.

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