Black Swamp Find?

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From the Heritage catalog (thanks to "mountaingirl" who notified me of this via PM):

"1910 E98 "Set of 30" Baseball Near Set (27/30) - The Best of the Black Swamp Find! Like the Phoenix rising from the flame fueled with new life, so too from an area in Ohio known as the Black Swamp arose a virtually pristine and untouched collection of century old E98 caramel baseball cards. The Black Swamp Find is a discovery that will never be equaled or surpassed in the hobby. This is the ultimate "attic find" we all dream of coming across. For 100 years, the cards were nestled under a treasured doll house, we thankfully say completely forgotten about. There have been and will always finds of old baseball cards that which have the same roster of baseball greats contained here but what will make the "Black Swamp" pedigree so famous is the condition. This is the "Mile High" collection in baseball card form. They are virtually untouched and by all account came directly from the printer to the meat market run by the grandparents of our consignor. If every portrait was cut to precision, this would be an entirely near-mint to gem-mint array. Of the 30 players from the E98 series the collection offered 25 players in duplicate, a trio represented by a single example and two players (Lajoie and Walsh) mysteriously not represented. Names found include the greatest of the game including Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Chief Bender, Christy Mathewson, and Connie Mack plus Chance, Jennings, Evers, Bresnahan, Young plus others. Ironically, the unknowns have proven to be harder to find than the greats. Player after player, card after card, each a precious relic that takes you back in time. Currently, the finest E98 set known on any registry has an impressive GPA equal to 5.75. Factoring the lone qualified card as a "4", this presentation earns an unheard of GPA of 7.9! It would be so easy to go on but we will allow the next thousand words to be the image presented to your right."

[E93]

Being that Heritage's website is unsearchable and the worst in the hobby, can anyone provide a link. I just spent ten minutes trying to find it on their website and came up blank.
Thanks,
JimB

[calvindog]

Yeah, I couldn't find it either. Jim and I have about 9 degrees between us -- if only we had that 10th we'd be able to use Heritage's damn site. Unreal. What is with Heritage?

[glchen]

Linky

[oldjudge]

Do the pop reports numbers listed in the lot description include all the cards from the find? It was my impression that there were a couple of dozen extremely high grade examples each for most of the cards in the set. In my opinion, it would be extremely disingenuous on Heritage's part if the figures did not include all the cards from the find.

[CW]

Originally Posted by glchen

Linky

Thanks for posting that.

Looking at those cards... wow! It's like going back in time....

[ullmandds]

Thanks for posting the link that is the first time I saw all of those cards together amazing! What strikes me as odd obviously is the vast majority of cards that are red? So if all of these cards came from a store that was supposed to give them away... it would make sense that the colors were printed at different times and it just so happens that this store got almost all reds... very interesting!

[Matthew H]

Sheesh, I just got blinded by the white boarders! I'm guessing the Tinker and Jennings were part of the group represented by a single example...

Nothing against Heritage but it's funny how some auction descriptions will go on for days while this one somewhat leaves us in the dark.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Thanks for posting the link that is the first time I saw all of those cards together amazing! What strikes me as odd obviously is the vast majority of cards that are red? So if all of these cards came from a store that was supposed to give them away... it would make sense that the colors were printed at different times and it just so happens that this store got almost all reds... very interesting!

If you want some more color variations, here are some greens: Linky

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yeah, I couldn't find it either. Jim and I have about 9 degrees between us -- if only we had that 10th we'd be able to use Heritage's damn site. Unreal. What is with Heritage?

Yes, 8 + 1 does equal 9.

[Tim Kindler]

Look everyone, before you kill me with responses...I'M NOT SAYING THESE E98s ARE FAKE....but no one has brought up the obvious question: Are these things really real. As much as some people hate TPG and PSA, I'm surprised no one has actually wondered in writing in this thread if they are indeed real. I've never posted in one of the many TPG or PSA bashing threads before (You can look it up!) so I have no grudge at all against PSA. I'm just simply finding all of these numerous 8s, 9s, and 10s hard to believe from E98s all of a sudden coming out of the woodwork. I would be lying if I said I didn't have my doubts just how old these E98s really are, even though I have absolutely no evidence to back up my suspicions other than TPG do make mistakes.
Tim Kindler

[ullmandds]

I don't know Tim...but looking at that hi res scan of Wags...the card sure looks real!!!!! If these have been hidden away, untouched for all these years...I believe it!!!! They sure look real to me?!

[ctownboy]

Tim,

I am not going to get into the TPG discussion or whether these cards are authentic or not. The first question I had was concerning the brief description. I read that these cards were found under a doll house in an attic and look like they just came from the printer.

So, my question is, were they found under the doll house in a box already cut OR were they found in uncut sheets and then cut at a later date?

Think about it; from the looks of it, these cards have mostly red backgrounds. If they were in uncut sheets up in the attic all of these years, then the top sheet would have taken most of the abuse from the doll house while the sheets underneath would have been protected.

Now, obviously the cards could have been cut at the printer and sent to the meat market where the owner put them in a box and then in an attic where they stayed all of these years. I don't know and would like to hear the whole story about how these cards were found.

David