Peter Nash and Hauls of Shame

[Leon]

So basically you are ok if someone murders someone, as long as they point out that someone else murdered someone too? Makes sense to me.

Like many have said, if he paid his dues, made restitution and quit his shenanigans then this would be a different conversation. Until that is done it's hard to get past the messenger to hear the message.

Originally Posted by laughlinfan

Admittedly, if I were directly a victim of the fraud, my opinion might be different, but from my outsider view, it almost seems to me that Peter is doing something similar to what Canseco did - got blackballed/shunned for past bad behavior, and got tired of the community all pointing fingers when he was aware that many of the sacred cows of the hobby were guilty as well. Whether he is doing this out of revenge or a desire to try to do a service to the hobby from which he has fallen from grace, I don't know. But if his claims are true (and certainly some of the accused are free to refute), I am happy that he is making folks aware of the fraud that is going on, regardless of his past.

[travrosty]

why are we talking about murdering someone, al capone was a serial murderer. this is ridiculous. where is any proof that anything like this happened.

its crazy and this whole thread is a setup.

[carrigansghost]

Travis, have you finally lost your mind?

Rawn

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by travrosty

why are we talking about murdering someone, al capone was a serial murderer. this is ridiculous. where is any proof that anything like this happened.

its crazy and this whole thread is a setup.

Travis, I would like to reference something positive Pete has done in this thread, his music. As a young kid I was a fan not afraid to admit it.

I was digging for a response to the above and realized Pete and Serch gave it to us long ago….

“Travis Roste gets the gas face”.

[laughlinfan]

Not quite sure I am following your logic, but I'll take the bait! I don't think anywhere in my post did I indicate any sentiment that I am OK with Pete. Quite the contrary - if he did the things that he is accused of, I hope he gets everything that is coming to him and then some. I also hope that if the folks he points out in his articles did the things he has investigated and alleged, that they similarly get what they deserve.

Regardless of how I feel about Pete, that doesn't change the fact that if he is truly pointing out other legitimate instances of fraud, I am happy the information is out there.

So back to your question - if your murderer credibly points out someone else who is a murderer, regardless of his intentions (revenge, redemption, or redirection), I am glad both have been identified, and hope both of them get what they deserve.

Originally Posted by Leon

So basically you are ok if someone murders someone, as long as they point out that someone else murdered someone too? Makes sense to me.

Like many have said, if he paid his dues, made restitution and quit his shenanigans then this would be a different conversation. Until that is done it's hard to get past the messenger to hear the message.

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by laughlinfan

if he is truly pointing out other legitimate instances of fraud, I am happy the information is out there.

Quite a big "if" at the beginning of your statement.

I know of items that he has listed on his master list of "stuff stolen from NYPL, HOF, etc." whereby owners of the items have literally gone to both a) the curators of the library and b) the FBI with basically a story that "if this belongs, we want to give it back".

In each of those cases, the items have been forensically analyzed and returned to the owner.

[E93]

Aware of what he is accused of having done, I don't trust that what he says now on this site is true. I'm sure there are parts that are true, but without full information, including his motivations, I consider it all suspect.
JimB

[Leon]

Originally Posted by E93

Aware of what he is accused of having done, I don't trust that what he says now on this site is true. I'm sure there are parts that are true, but without full information, including his motivations, I consider it all suspect.
JimB

His motivation? He is trying to rid the hobby of people like himself.

[sago]

Originally Posted by leon

his motivation? He is trying to rid the hobby of people like himself.

poty

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha, Just curious, is Nash a convicted felon? How about a list of notable people in the baseball card and memorabilia collecting community that are convicted felons. dave pierson. (never been arrested).

[birdman42]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

I know of items that he has listed on his master list of "stuff stolen from NYPL, HOF, etc." whereby owners of the items have literally gone to both a) the curators of the library and b) the FBI with basically a story that "if this belongs, we want to give it back".

In each of those cases, the items have been forensically analyzed and returned to the owner.

Wow. Seems like you don't know who to trust anymore.