Black Swamp Find - PSA E98 Population Report

[Rob D.]

No Lajoies. That's a shame.

[barrysloate]

Thanks Matthew. Looks like there will be tons of Near Sets- 25 cards or so- but no more complete sets than before. But the number of collectors who can upgrade an existing set will be limitless.

[barrysloate]

The pricing will be all over the board. The PSA 10 Wagner will surely set a new record for a caramel card and will be well into six figures. But if you can settle for a Wagner in a 7 it will be so easy to find and very affordable. And what about the commons where there are 20-40 of each one? They won't be too expensive either. Man, this is a fascinating find.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The pricing will be all over the board. The PSA 10 Wagner will surely set a new record for a caramel card and will be well into six figures. But if you can settle for a Wagner in a 7 it will be so easy to find and very affordable. And what about the commons where there are 20-40 of each one? They won't be too expensive either. Man, this is a fascinating find.

For the ones with 20-40 of each, it might be something similar to the Tango Eggs cards, where you see NM cards going for $500 for the common cards, but much higher for a player where less cards were found.

Obviously I'm not sure about it at all, but super curious to see how this pans out....

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by scooter729

For the ones with 20-40 of each, it might be something similar to the Tango Eggs cards, where you see NM cards going for $500 for the common cards, but much higher for a player where less cards were found.

Obviously I'm not sure about it at all, but super curious to see how this pans out....

I was thinking the same thing. Reminding me of Bescher and Jennings from the Tango set.

[barrysloate]

Yes- the Jennings and Bescher Tango Eggs was the first thing that came to mind. But in this case, 20-25 cards out of 30 are like the Jennings and Bescher. Before this find finding a high grade E98 common for a type set was a challenge. You might come across a 5 or 6, but a 7 would be really tough. Now you will have 700 to choose from. From that perspective high grade commons may be cheaper than T206 in a similar grade.

But what about the Ty Cobbs graded a 9? Those won't be cheap. Yet one has think that 46 Wagners are going to cause a big price drop. Very difficult to assess value here. This is going to be volatile group of cards. Still, maybe the most unusual find in hobby history.

[pcoz]

I have two Wagner 4's in both Orange & Blue. I wonder what those values are now and will be later. It's debatable, but many believe in valuing cards you look at demand then rarity. I do think the other colors will draw attention after this high end group is sold.

[4815162342]

There have been a few awesome finds over the past few years, whether it was the T207 Red Cross Lowdermilk that walked onto the Antiques Roadshow, or the Just So Ewing found nailed inside the wall of a house, or now this. The hobby continues to provide excitement. But it must stink to be tbob.

[E93]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The pricing will be all over the board. The PSA 10 Wagner will surely set a new record for a caramel card and will be well into six figures.

The PSA 10 black swamp Wagner sold for about 250k. A PSA 9 E93 Cobb sold for 274k privately about five years ago. So the Wagner has not set a record yet.
JimB

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

No Lajoies. That's a shame.

Maybe, since they were in Ohio, the Lajoie cards were given away to kids.