Threw an expecting card away...

sylbry · #1 07-19-2012, 10:04 AM

If you threw the card away how is someone else finding it in the trash and selling it on ebay a crime or "unethical"?

Quite frankly if I found something that had been disposed of and may have value I would put it on ebay to try and get something for it.

No offense to the OP but from reading this thread I can only see one "dumbass" and it isn't the current seller.

Granted, if it was stolen that would be a different story. But that will be hard to prove, especially since there is a thread on the internet on how the card was thrown away.

Edited to add - But I do hope you get your card back. And if you do, starting this thread will certainly have served you well.

cwazzy · #2 07-19-2012, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylbry

If you threw the card away how is someone else finding it in the trash and selling it on ebay a crime or "unethical"?

Quite frankly if I found something that had been disposed of and may have value I would put it on ebay to try and get something for it.

No offense to the OP but from reading this thread I can only see one "dumbass" and it isn't the current seller.

Granted, if it was stolen that would be a different story. But that will be hard to prove, especially since there is a thread on the internet on how the card was thrown away.

Edited to add - But I do hope you get your card back. And if you do, starting this thread will certainly have served you well.

I think that since the DC showed it had been delivered that he thought he must have thrown it away. I might have thought the same thing. But it seems fairly obvious that it was either stolen or just delivered to the wrong apartment.

HOF Auto Rookies · #3 07-19-2012, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwazzy

I think that since the DC showed it had been delivered that he thought he must have thrown it away. I might have thought the same thing. But it seems fairly obvious that it was either stolen or just delivered to the wrong apartment.

Exactly what I assumed, but with the trash in my building, there is no possible way someone would go through it. It has every trash from 100+ different apartments/town homes/ and condo's. 4+ large garbage/recycling dumpsters, with hundreds and hundres of trash bags. Then the garbage truck brings those right to the truck and pretty much crunches the trash. So would be destroyed.

In the previous post above yours, I don't expect him to have known that, so he is correct in his assumptions. But based off how this played out, which I thought was fairly obvious, to conclude I didn't toss it.

T206Collector · #4 07-19-2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwazzy

I think that since the DC showed it had been delivered that he thought he must have thrown it away. I might have thought the same thing. But it seems fairly obvious that it was either stolen or just delivered to the wrong apartment.

+1

HOF Auto Rookies · #5 07-19-2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylbry

If you threw the card away how is someone else finding it in the trash and selling it on ebay a crime or "unethical"?

Quite frankly if I found something that had been disposed of and may have value I would put it on ebay to try and get something for it.

No offense to the OP but from reading this thread I can only see one "dumbass" and it isn't the current seller.

Granted, if it was stolen that would be a different story. But that will be hard to prove, especially since there is a thread on the internet on how the card was thrown away.

Edited to add - But I do hope you get your card back. And if you do, starting this thread will certainly have served you well.

Respect your thoughts, but I "assumed" I threw it away, so I thought. You cannot prove that I threw it away either, but when the authorities come knocking on his door, we will then know the truth. I don't get any mail whatsoever, other than eBay purchases or BST purchases, and I know EXACTLY when my cards come. There was no possible way did I think I threw it away, but I chalked it up as that.

I realize I could be a complete dumbass in doing so, but I have never come close to throwing a card away, I just figured I may have, it is pretty difficult to throw away a buddle mailer when that is the only thing I receive in regards to mail other than bills. I would rather throw those away :P

But, I do hope I get it back.

sylbry · #6 07-19-2012, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Respect your thoughts, but I "assumed" I threw it away, so I thought. You cannot prove that I threw it away either, but when the authorities come knocking on his door, we will then know the truth. I don't get any mail whatsoever, other than eBay purchases or BST purchases, and I know EXACTLY when my cards come. There was no possible way did I think I threw it away, but I chalked it up as that.

I realize I could be a complete dumbass in doing so, but I have never come close to throwing a card away, I just figured I may have, it is pretty difficult to throw away a buddle mailer when that is the only thing I receive in regards to mail other than bills. I would rather throw those away :P

But, I do hope I get it back.

By all means take my comments for what they are worth, nothing. Just giving the new seller then benefit of the doubt. Maybe it was really found in the trash? Maybe it exchanged hands more than once before it ended up on ebay?

Then again maybe the card was delivered to the seller's residence and instead of doing the decent thing by finding it's owner or at least the sender, the seller committed mail fraud and opened and kept something not meant for him or her.

But whatever the real story may be it looks like this will have a happy ending. Kudos to the forum.

HOF Auto Rookies · #7 07-19-2012, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylbry

By all means take my comments for what they are worth, nothing. Just giving the new seller then benefit of the doubt. Maybe it was really found in the trash? Maybe it exchanged hands more than once before it ended up on ebay?

Then again maybe the card was delivered to the seller's residence and instead of doing the decent thing by finding it's owner or at least the sender, the seller committed mail fraud and opened and kept something not meant for him or her.

But whatever the real story may be it looks like this will have a happy ending. Kudos to the forum.

Couldn't agree with you more if I was looking from the outside in. We just won't know until the police go to his place and find out the story. But, looking good for right now.

Matthew H · #8 07-19-2012, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylbry

If you threw the card away how is someone else finding it in the trash and selling it on ebay a crime or "unethical"?

Quite frankly if I found something that had been disposed of and may have value I would put it on ebay to try and get something for it.

No offense to the OP but from reading this thread I can only see one "dumbass" and it isn't the current seller.

Granted, if it was stolen that would be a different story. But that will be hard to prove, especially since there is a thread on the internet on how the card was thrown away.

Edited to add - But I do hope you get your card back. And if you do, starting this thread will certainly have served you well.

If your neighbor found a piece of mail with your name on it in the trash, found something valuable inside, then listed it on eBay, that would be ok with you? If it were me, I'd have taken the package to him unopened... Actually it wouldn't have been me because I don't rifle through the trash that often. (and i don't think it was ever in the trash)

HOF Auto Rookies · #9 07-19-2012, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew H

If your neighbor found a piece of mail with your name on it in the trash, found something valuable inside, then listed it on eBay, that would be ok with you? If it were me, I'd have taken the package to him unopened... Actually it wouldn't have been me because I don't rifle through the trash that often. (and i don't think it was ever in the trash)

+1

sylbry · #10 07-19-2012, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew H

If your neighbor found a piece of mail with your name on it in the trash, found something valuable inside, then listed it on eBay, that would be ok with you? If it were me, I'd have taken the package to him unopened... Actually it wouldn't have been me because I don't rifle through the trash that often. (and i don't think it was ever in the trash)

If something is discarded it is fair game for whomever finds it. Never done it, never intend to do it, but won't complain if someone finds treasure in my trash. I had my chance. Can't expect someone to ask me if I meant to throw it away.

The board was ready to convict the new seller. Almost two months past between the expected delivery and the listing. Who knows where the card was or who had it during that time. All I am saying is there is no reason to jump to a conclusion.

But I do owe the OP an apology as based on his description of the trash, it is more likely than not this is the result of no fault of his own.

And I certainly hope the OP will update this thread as to the conclusion.

View Poll Results: Have you ever thrown an expecting card away?
Yes	12	15.38%
No	66	84.62%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
T206's for sale	WabitTwax	Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T	6	10-26-2009 10:56 AM
FS: T200 Fatima Pirates Team Card incl Honus Wagner Likely Trimmed But Very Nice $200	packs	Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T	3	10-14-2009 03:43 AM
A question regarding the Mastro trimmed card thread	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	42	10-02-2006 12:36 PM
I realize that our opinions may differ regarding what constitutes a baseball card	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	4	09-10-2006 02:42 PM
POLL: Trimmed Card Prices	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	63	12-22-2005 10:06 AM