Heritage Auctions

[carrigansghost]

I would tell my son to just go ahead and give her half on your shit, kick you in the nuts and limp away. Seriously boys, I would not go to the event, (it's a gathering of us geeks), if I felt strongly about Heritage.

Josh, if you were to make this comment about members of any faith, instead of my belief in none, you would be an outcast by now.

Hypocrits come out when their beliefs are questioned. I have no beliefs, therefore, "Oh to hell with me". Let ye that are without sin cast the first stone.....Looks like a long weekend for you in a cramped booth saying "sorry".

I don't shop at walmart, I support local owner's.

[Wite3]

Rawn,
I am an outcast and proud of it. Most people took it as a joke. I hope you did as well.

I am not attending the dinner this year either. Why? Honestly because my government values other things other than paying teachers what they are worth.

..no harm was meant by it and it was to point out that often we overlook certain things in our lives that supposedly compromise our value systems.

Joshua

[Jaybird]

Nm

[carrigansghost]

Go right ahead and state you opinion,Jason.

3.16 would be a great ERA for the Sox to pick up.

Rawn

[carrigansghost]

Please don't get me started on teacher's wages. I would love to work 38 weeks a year for 30K plus benefits a year here in Maine. I have a teacher on my facebook that complains endlessly about the work and posts photos of her summer exploits. I lived with a teacher for 2 years and she was never late getting home from work and I never saw her doing any homework.

Rawn
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[HRBAKER]

Having no pedestals is a pedestal.

...........and there's nothing wrong with that.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Having no pedestals is a pedestal.

...........and there's nothing wrong with that.

Funny you should say that - I was thinking it myself as I typed. It's kind of a strange loop.

I like to put women on pedestals....just high enough that I can see up their skirts.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by carrigansghost

Please don't get me started on teacher's wages. I would love to work 38 weeks a year for 30K plus benefits a year here in Maine. I have a teacher on my facebook that complains endlessly about the work and posts photos of her summer exploits. I lived with a teacher for 2 years and she was never late getting home from work and I never saw her doing any homework.

Rawn
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I guess your experiences with the two teachers you mention just says it all for the entire discipline.
(If you think it's such a cushy job, Rawn, what's stopping you from becoming a teacher? Lack of education, perhaps?)

[carrigansghost]

Actually no, it's the attitude of the parents. I'll put my education up against anyone on the board. I'm thinking maybe 51% I'm ahead of. Fine with me.

Rawn

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Wite3

I am not attending the dinner this year either. Why? Honestly because my government values things other than paying teachers what they are worth.

So does Rawn.
But thinking people side with you, Joshua.

[carrigansghost]

All for paying teachers if they deserve it. Some care, some don't.

I'm against unions as wel.

Rawn

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by carrigansghost

All for paying teachers if they deserve it. Some care, some don't.

If you figure out a way to measure that, let the rest of us know.

I REALLY wish you'd become a public school teacher, even in the relatively friendly confines of Maine. It would smack the condescension off of your face in the first week, I know it.

[Wite3]

Rawn,

I actually used to like you before this thread but when you attack something very dear to me and something that I work extremely hard at (and attack it for no reason other than to make yourself seem superior), then I feel I might need to respond.

Your education might be higher than mine (although I doubt it). I am glad you have one. I wonder if it was home schooled or did you have dedicated/ hard working teachers? Even if you have 12 horrible teachers, it only takes one good one to erase all that.

Trade jobs with me for a week...I will be a field technician (whatever that is) for a small company in Maine and you can be an elementary teacher in one of the poorest districts in California.

I spend over $1000 of my own money a year for my classroom (sometimes more)...how much do you spend for your job? I work hard at school. I do not get breaks during the day except for a 45 minute lunch (which we often work through). (I often spend recess copying, calling parents, writing reports, meeting with the principal, etc.) I work from 7 am to 5 pm nearly everyday. I work nights at least two times a week catching up on grading, planning, or email. I teach summer school. Did you know that the majority of teachers in this country work a second job during summer (some even at night) to make ends meet? My summer break was exactly 9 weeks this year and I start back on August 6 even though the kids do not start until the 12th. How many days did you work this year where you did not get paid? I had 5 furlough days this year and 5 this coming year. I have not had a raise in my salary for 7 years (not even a cost of living increase).

You mention dealing with parents...I can just imagine what your parent conferences must be like with your children (not sure you have any...but I shudder when I think about it).

I joked with you and you attacked me. I am just dismayed.

I would like to thank a few people who pm'ed me and sent support.

Done with you and this thread...troll turned out to be an accurate description...now I am sad I ever helped you with the t205 polar bear carrigan.

Joshua
Proud Public School Teacher of the last 15 years!

[3-2-count]

Rawn,
Although it's very difficult for a man to do, many times it's necessary for him to step away and say he was wrong. I have no beef with you, but can tell you that you came away in this thread looking very disrespectful towards others. Sometimes a man's opinion should be kept to himself out of pure respect for others. Nothing more!!

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Wite3

Rawn,

I actually used to like you before this thread but when you attack something very dear to me and something that I work extremely hard at (and attack it for no reason other than to make yourself seem superior), then I feel I might need to respond.

Your education might be higher than mine (although I doubt it). I am glad you have one. I wonder if it was home schooled or did you have dedicated/ hard working teachers? Even if you have 12 horrible teachers, it only takes one good one to erase all that.

Trade jobs with me for a week...I will be a field technician (whatever that is) for a small company in Maine and you can be an elementary teacher in one of the poorest districts in California.

I spend over $1000 of my own money a year for my classroom (sometimes more)...how much do you spend for your job? I work hard at school. I do not get breaks during the day except for a 45 minute lunch (which we often work through). (I often spend recess copying, calling parents, writing reports, meeting with the principal, etc.) I work from 7 am to 5 pm nearly everyday. I work nights at least two times a week catching up on grading, planning, or email. I teach summer school. Did you know that the majority of teachers in this country work a second job during summer (some even at night) to make ends meet? My summer break was exactly 9 weeks this year and I start back on August 6 even though the kids do not start until the 12th. How many days did you work this year where you did not get paid? I had 5 furlough days this year and 5 this coming year. I have not had a raise in my salary for 7 years (not even a cost of living increase).

You mention dealing with parents...I can just imagine what your parent conferences must be like with your children (not sure you have any...but I shudder when I think about it).

I joked with you and you attacked me. I am just dismayed.

I would like to thank a few people who pm'ed me and sent support.

Done with you and this thread...troll turned out to be an accurate description...now I am sad I ever helped you with the t205 polar bear carrigan.

Joshua
Proud Public School Teacher of the last 15 years!

+1000

I have to agree 1000% with Joshua on this one. My grandfather and father were both school teachers for over 35 years in their respective school districts. My dad didn't make a lot of $$$ but he worked hard all year long. In the summers he and others painted houses, took second jobs, etc. to make ends meet. Most nights were spent grading papers or entering grades into grade books or creating new assignments. And that was after he coached football or wrestling or whatever other school activities he was involved in after school let out. During sports seasons, my father left the house each morning at 6:30am and got home at 6:30pm every night.

When I got my Master's in Computer Science as a snot-nosed 20 something, I made more money right out of college than my father who had been teaching for 25 years by then. How fair is that? If our children are our future, how can we not value those who educate them?

Keep doing what you do, Joshua. Our kids need teachers like you!

jeff

[BigJJ]

The auction house practices of (i) house bidding, (ii) house consigning, and (iii) access to absentee bid amounts, etc. extend beyond Heritage - I believe to nearly every baseball auction house - except REA (with Honest Auto Bid). Please advise of others.

This discussion should include Heritage, but extend beyond it - perhaps in a new all encompassing thread.

We should be encouraging all auction houses:

(i) to have a block-out screen for absentee and ceiling bids
(ii) to not have house bidding (or if you do, to make each such BID public RIGHT WHEN IT IS PLACED), and
(iii) to not have house consigning (or if you do, to state in the description that such lot is house-owned)
(iv) to not have hidden reserves

Which auction houses state that they do this? Which do not so state?
And - how do we know that they are adhering to their published rules anyway?

If you're not taking food from Heritage (please give it to me), who can you take food from? These practices are endemic to the field of auctions - there needs to be better federal/state laws reflective of advances in technology (screens for absentee/ceiling bids) and advances in understanding (auction houses likely should be only auction houses). But a collecting community can have some impact, particularly on the larger players in the arena.