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07-26-2012, 08:57 PM
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You are referring to the UN Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty in which meetings have been going on all month in New York City. I've been following this closely. Yes, this is an attmept to take guns out of the hands of private ownership. Some say that would never happen in this country, but pre-conference position papers call for exactly that. Any treaty with the UN would supersede the 2nd Ammendment. Anybody that doesn't believe that can look it up. It's a fact! Fortunately, we have the NRA there on our side to make sure our own government doesn't undermine the Constitution. We also have many senators on our side as any such treaty would have to be ratified by two-thirds of the Senate. In fact, 57 senators signed a letter and sent it to Barry Soetoro to remind him of that. In other words, it wouldn't pass Senate approval. The sad thing is that they try to keep things like this quiet. You don't hear anything about it on the news and I bet you that many gun owners don't even know what's going on. It might be signed, but it will never be ratified. Edited to change my wording (for Peter) Last edited by vintagetoppsguy; 07-26-2012 at 09:28 PM. 
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07-26-2012, 09:04 PM
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A "dumb ass"? David, you only debase yourself referring to the President, or anyone really, that way.
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07-26-2012, 09:39 PM
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Unless the Supreme Court has overruled Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), I'm pretty doubtful that treaties supersede the Constitution.
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07-26-2012, 09:53 PM
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Kenny you are right, a treaty cannot supersede the Constitution.
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07-26-2012, 10:04 PM
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If I’m interpreting it wrong, then my apologies. I don’t want to give out false information. Edited to add: Quote:
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07-26-2012, 10:32 PM
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Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President.
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07-27-2012, 12:44 AM
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07-27-2012, 06:42 AM
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David, as I understand it that provision means a treaty takes precedence over the laws of any state -- it's a federalism provision. A law passed by Congress is also the supreme law of the land, but is still subject to the Constitution -- as is a treaty.
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07-29-2012, 05:40 PM
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Did anyone here mention how we sent a notebook with his plans/drawings a week before to his psychiatrist but no one read it.
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