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08-20-2012, 12:05 AM
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The E98 is "Cleveland Americans."
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08-20-2012, 12:13 AM
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Actually, yes, you could definitely be right now that I look at the captions.
I never really put it together that the caption on the e97 young said "boston natl" and that Irv Young did play for the national team. I'm with you now. Rob
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08-20-2012, 12:29 AM
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Knowing now how often Irv Young was called Cy Young, I just don't see how the name/time frame/city/image can all match him, yet it isn't him. Looking at the checklist of the Young,Cleveland version from the e97 set, it still has Kelly with Boston, though he was gone by 1908, it has Durham with New York, gone by May 1909, but also has Nicholls on Cleveland and he didn't go there until after Dec 1909 so the checklist still has guys on the wrong team well after they were gone. The e97 Young,Cleveland checklist has Sullivan on Chicago, but that is obviously wrong. It's not Billy Sullivan of the White Sox on the card, it's Denny Sullivan, who was out of the majors by that time. It looks like they did the same exact thing with him as I am saying they did with Cy Young. Now there is two examples of the team changing(to fit another player) but the picture staying the same.
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08-20-2012, 01:13 AM
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Yeah, I don't know. The e97 checklist is all over the place.
Keeler didn't play for the giants until 1910. I was just thinking that since the cleveland caption is there for all four sets (E93-E98) that they were all intended to be the old cy young. It is interesting that the E94 back actually uses "old cy young" in the checklist instead of cy young. But then, E93 uses "cy young" and has the correct pic. Rob
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08-20-2012, 08:57 AM
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Not being hugely familiar with the set, I guess I should've been clearer on that I meant the black and white versions of the card, where there is no checklist on the back. I didn't even know that there was a Boston version of the color card that said Cleveland on the back. What a mess that set is for keeping track of players!
With Keeler on the Giants, they either produced the black and white cards over different times or they made a mistake with the AL/NL designation. I'm going for the latter, since the color versions seem to have been produced second, especially true if the BW cards are really proofs
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"especially true if the BW cards are really proofs" . .
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08-20-2012, 09:23 AM
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08-20-2012, 09:19 AM
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Judging from the reading I've done since last night Leon, I would call them e97-1 since I think they were produced first and I'd lose the Briggs designation for them
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