Relentless Negativity

[packs]

I agree with the sentiments of this thread. It's really annoying when a select few posters decide they're going to start an argument. I don't think people are supposed to sling personal insults on this board. Yet in every other thread the same people are relentlessly insulting each other. Maybe we could get those posters off the autograph forum?

[alexautographs]

Having just come back to this forum after an absence of a couple years, it seems everyone forgot the longest thread in history - the famous Morales-Frangipani epic of, I believe, 2010 or so. It helped fuel an FBI investigation that reaped great benefits and vindicated a fine dealer who had become a crook's victim.

Yes, there is an awful lot of mud-slinging here with people who have the same aim in the hobby attacking each other because they've aligned themselves with different "good guys". Who wins? Nobody....but the forgers.

Sure, the topic of frauds and forgers could be dropped entirely and the forum could become just "sweetness and light" - until the next giant fraud is exposed and everyone kicks themselves.

Maybe just a little more self-control and a little less needling is all that's really needed.

[keithsky]

Maybe Leon can start another forum called Mudslinging forum so these guys that want to call each other names and cut each other down can do it without bringing the rest of us down with them. I think it would have about 3 members that come to mind right off the top of my head.

Keith

[packs]

Nothing wrong with outing frauds. It's good for everyone to know who is selling fakes and what to stay away from. That's what I liked about the recent Drew Max thread. A board member carefully broke down what to look for in a baseball fabricated to look vintage.

However, in that thread certain board members also took the opportunity to relentlessly insult each other for another 4 or 5 pages, which is what, 50 posts? And by the time they put their rulers away the valuable information was buried.

There is such a thing as people doing more harm than good. Whenever I see a few posters in a thread I tend to avoid it without even reading whats going on. I'm sure I'm not alone.

[T206Collector]

Also, there are a lot of "experts" on here that like to share their opinions about whether an autograph is real or not. Why would you share your collection if you can expect a few people to chime in about how the signature doesn't look right to them?

Probably comes with the territory, but could you imagine if every time you showed a T206 card on the forum that two or three people were like, "Looks trimmed to me" or "Lettering seems off, might be a reprint". No one would share any more. And it would discourage collecting.

[bluebirds]

Leon has the right idea in making people post full names in these mud slinging contests. However, "Joe Blow" in Texas calling "Harry Hinkle" in Boston doesn't cut it with me. Don't say anything on here you WOULDN'T SAY TO A PERSON FACE TO FACE. If this rule was followed the negativity would greatly decrease and some of the phony "self-appointed" hobby saviors would disappear like the hot air some of them are. But then again the moon might touch the earth tonight if that happened.

Martin Green

[bluebirds]

Second sentence in previous post should have said: "Joe Blow" in Texas CALLING "Harry Hinkle" in Boston a name doesn't cut it.
Martin Green

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bluebirds

Don't say anything on here you WOULDN'T SAY TO A PERSON FACE TO FACE.

Martin, that would solve the problem. In a hobby like ours, if you are serious, you are likely to meet others at an event or two.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Maybe Leon can start another forum called Mudslinging forum so these guys that want to call each other names and cut each other down can do it without bringing the rest of us down with them. I think it would have about 3 members that come to mind right off the top of my head.

Keith

Perhaps the Mudslinging Forum could be held at high noon? Seems like this would make good sense, FWIW....