O/T - Red Sox - Dodgers Trade

[bh3443]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

As long as the Red Sox are cleaning house, they may also consider jettisoning Bobby Valentine. The players don't like playing for him.

Very true, Barry my friend!
Actually, I think a lot more need to go so we can rebiuld the team fresh.
Honestly, to me, the owners selling the team would be the best thing to happen. They seem to love their soccer team and not the Red Sox!

Ironically, I'm not a fan of the Red Sox or any particular team as much as I'm just a Baseball fan! I just like good BB!

These trade arguments have been going on since forever! There have been some scary ones!
One day after the Bill Lee trade, I was walking towards Fenway for a game and saw this spray painted on the wall after the Bill Lee fiasco:
WHO THE HELL IS STAN PAPI?

Ah, the Red Sox, you gotta love them!

Bill Hedin

[bosoxfan]

I watch a lot of Sox games and I agree GoneHitLez was coming up short more times then not. I got soooo tired of him hitting a weak ground ball to the right side of the infield in big spots, clogging up the bases, loafing to first, his lack of leadership in the clubhouse, his constant complaining about the schedule, all his excuses why they team wasn't winning, his bitching to management because he didn't like what the manager said or how he said it, rarely driving the ball to the right side. There were stretches when it seemed he'd go weeks without pulling the ball with any authority at all, home or away. Swinging at pitches out of the strike zone, leading the league in GDP, lack of power numbers, his apathitic demeanor, ect. I could go on. Bottom line it wasn't a good fit. Good luck

Where have you gone Anthony Rizzo., and Casey Kelly for that matter

Statistics can lie. Oh how they lie

[mckinneyj]

> Statistics can lie. Oh how they lie

Yep, I'm too lazy to do fetch 'em... but if you like those clutch stats from last year that were referenced in a prior post, you might take a look only at what was done against the rival treams, those that you have to beat, those where there is pressure, like the Rays, Rangers, and Yankees... Gonzalez was totally MIA against them (and a couple of the other better teams). He cleaned up on the weak sisters... he was streaky, but those streaks were always against the lesser teams. Ask any Sox fan to remember a notable at bat by Adrian... I suspect that few can. Tied, down one, down two with two out in the eight or ninth and Gonzalez coming to bat - might as well head to the concession stand or fridge - nothing to see here. Other than Punto he was probably the last guy that I wanted to see up (as a long watching Sox fan).

He should be praised for an excellent first half of last year, his fielding in general, and also for being willing to go out and play right field for a bunch of games while the Sox worked out the Middlebrooks-Youkilis situation. But he was not even close to being an elite performer over his time with the Sox. Better they spend their $$ elsewhere.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It never ceases to amaze that guys who get paid millions to play a game bitch, moan, and whine so much, as if they had real grievances compared to 99 percent of humanity. For every Derek Jeter there seem to be ten jerks.

[chaddurbin]

boston management doesn't have the best reputation of patting a guy on the back when they leave town. the owners are incredibly self-conscious of their image to the fanbase. why any future free-agent would want to go there is beyond me.

[yanks12025]

Also their streak of home sell outs is nothing but a fraud.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bh3443

Very true, Barry my friend!
Actually, I think a lot more need to go so we can rebiuld the team fresh.
Honestly, to me, the owners selling the team would be the best thing to happen. They seem to love their soccer team and not the Red Sox!

Ironically, I'm not a fan of the Red Sox or any particular team as much as I'm just a Baseball fan! I just like good BB!

These trade arguments have been going on since forever! There have been some scary ones!
One day after the Bill Lee trade, I was walking towards Fenway for a game and saw this spray painted on the wall after the Bill Lee fiasco:
WHO THE HELL IS STAN PAPI?

Ah, the Red Sox, you gotta love them!

Bill Hedin

Did you see what happened to that grafitti later? Someone added a very non PC answer, and for some reason the team left it up on that wall for years. I wanted to take a picture of it, but just didn't get to doing it.

Steve B

[bbcarddan]

Originally Posted by steve B

Did you see what happened to that grafitti later? Someone added a very non PC answer, and for some reason the team left it up on that wall for years. I wanted to take a picture of it, but just didn't get to doing it.

Steve B

I never knew there was an update to that grafitti what did it say? If you can word it without offending anyone, anyone but Stan Papi that is!

[steve B]

It ended up as "Who the Hell is Stan Papi? He's the best head in town."

I suppose it's ok to quote it. If anyone's really bothered I'll censor it somehow.

I also recall the third word beginning with an f, but it was a long time ago. I was always amazed they didn't paint it over. It outlasted Papi.

I used to take a lap around the outside of the park if I was early enough or in the area. There used to be a small door along the first base side that aligned directly with the grounds crew field entrance. And it was usually left open, and also usually unguarded on off days. I never had the guts to wander in and try getting on the field. The BPD wasn't particularly gentle on occasion especially with stuff that was a nuisance to prosecute.

To keep on topic, I'm not liking the trade much. Sure, those three players were underperforming this year, but it seems like everyone is under the new manager. Youk is doing well in Chicago, and I'll be surprised if the guys traded don't do well for LA. I'm all for the use of sabrmetrics in helping figure which players to sign, but there are a few cities where the players mental makeup might matter more. Boston, NY, a bit less in Chicago. The Sox have had a lot of good players signed who can't handle the scrutiny.
The trend the Sox seem to be taking is to become the A's. Borderline competetive on nearly no budget. And competetive because they're loaded with players who are all slightly above average but also very dull.
Give me a bunch of occasionally brilliant headcases any day. At least when they come in 3rd they'll be fun to watch.

Steve B

[bbcarddan]

Originally Posted by bh3443

Very true, Barry my friend!
Actually, I think a lot more need to go so we can rebiuld the team fresh.
Honestly, to me, the owners selling the team would be the best thing to happen. They seem to love their soccer team and not the Red Sox!

Ironically, I'm not a fan of the Red Sox or any particular team as much as I'm just a Baseball fan! I just like good BB!

These trade arguments have been going on since forever! There have been some scary ones!
One day after the Bill Lee trade, I was walking towards Fenway for a game and saw this spray painted on the wall after the Bill Lee fiasco:
WHO THE HELL IS STAN PAPI?

Ah, the Red Sox, you gotta love them!

Bill Hedin

My brother went to a game right after that trade and said someone spray painted that on the wall too! I`ve always remembered that I guess the new version would be WHO THE HELL IS BRENT LILLIBRIDGE?