Addie Joss auto?

[michael3322]

I also wondered how Kevin did the authentication.

A quick Google search produced the following article on Keating on the PSA website: Catching Up with Kevin Keating

Apparently Keating who runs Quality Autographs, graduated from the US Military Academy at West Point with a 4.0 GPA (with a major in Chinese and Far East Studies) and later earned a master's degree from Johns Hopkins.

Unfortunately, Google didn't reveal any other specimens of Joss' handwriting...

[jtschantz]

I have searched long and hard for a Joss autograph with no luck at all. I live in Toledo OH and have visited Addie's grave site (Woodlawn cemetary) and driven by his house (it sold for $800 a few years ago!). A friend of mine visited with his grandaughter for an article he was writing for the Toledo Blade 25 years ago. The grandaughter gave the writer a panoramic picture from the Addie Joss Tribute (all star) game that was originally presented to Addie's wife. I have never been able to find anything that had his signature.

[packs]

It seems like a stretch to attribute the postcard to Joss. Without running a census report, who is to say that there wasn't more than one Norman Joss in Toledo? If there is a complete and fully verified Addie Joss handwritten note that the authenticator compared the handwriting to I would love to see it. I bet it's a beauty.

[HexsHeroes]

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. . . that Kevin Keating acquired a Joss signed legal document (deed, loan document, will?) for inclusion into his own personal baseball HOFer autograph collection.

I could be mistaken, but I thought a Joss handwritten letter had also surfaced over the past 10-15 years too.

[sago]

Originally Posted by packs

It seems like a stretch to attribute the postcard to Joss. Without running a census report, who is to say that there wasn't more than one Norman Joss in Toledo? If there is a complete and fully verified Addie Joss handwritten note that the authenticator compared the handwriting to I would love to see it. I bet it's a beauty.

I searched for the name in all databases on ancestry.com. Only one Norman Joss in Toledo, born in 1902.

[michael3322]

Sago: that's some great, swift net research. Thanks.

It settles whether this could conceivably be a postcard to Joss' son. I think the point remains though that it is impossible for us to verify that this is Addie's actual writing without exemplars.

Since Joss was also a journalist, I wonder why drafts of his articles or any checques or legal documents bearing his signature have not surfaced.

[packs]

Wow. One Norman Joss. Was Addie listed as the father? Now I'm dying to see some Joss notes.

[Fred]

Yes, Norman was Addie's son.

The following is an an excerpt from an article about Addie's death. Note the Fulton street address is also the address on the post card:

Adrian (Addie) Joss, a Toledo resident and star pitcher of the Cleveland team, had died suddenly on April 14, 1911, at the age of 31. He left behind his wife Lillian and their two children, eight year old Norman and four year old Ruth, in the family home at 2440 Fulton Street in Toledo. After the funeral the Cleveland team determined to hold a day to honor the pitcher and raise money for the family, but the management soon became bogged down in on-the-field problems and the idea was put on the back burner.