PAWN STARS Shoeless Joe Jackson signed book...

[Rob D.]

Excellent point, Jim.

Discussing why certain things do or don't happen on Pawn Stars is like debating why Norm always sat at the end of the bar on Cheers or why Richie couldn't get a date for the prom on Happy Days.

Why? Because that's the way the scripts are written.

[oriolesbb6]

Agreed-remeber it's TV. My brother in law occasionally films reality shows for his co. based out of Philly. The producers search the area for the right locale and then truck the items in for staging(Pickers, Storage Wars, etc.)....

[yanks12025]

I know all shows are staged, but was hoping at least a little part of American Pickers was real but guess not.

[dell webb]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I know all shows are staged, but was hoping at least a little part of American Pickers was real but guess not.

Several years ago I talked at length with an older gentleman at an auction . He was on American Pickers in one of the earlier episodes. If any of you remember seeing the show he was the guy that had the general store and White Castle restaurant in his side yard. The pickers arrived at his place unannounced as they were given a tip from one of the locals that he might have some stuff for sale. The guy told me that the only thing that was staged was when he answered the front door because the first time that they knocked his wife answered. Other than that he said it was like the cameras weren't even there. He said that nothing at all was scripted. He regretted not selling more stuff but said they were great guys.

My family and I also visited their shop in Leclaire Iowa several years ago and talked to the girl that was working that day. Unfortunately it was Danielle's day off but this girl was just as nice. She said that when they're picking the cameras are always rolling but nothing is staged and the guys are just like they are on the show in real life.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I know all shows are staged, but was hoping at least a little part of American Pickers was real but guess not.

Part of it is real. They really do go freestyle. They just spend a few hours reshooting the chance meeting after they dig around. I don't work on that show but I've seen raw takes.

Edit: I noticed Dell Webb already answered this. You can't say the same thing about the pawn stars though

[drc]

"It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear" -- Norm

[alexautographs]

My take on "Porn Stars":

Know a rather sleazy dealer who went on the show with a rare Black civil rights figure's letter. Pre-taping, they took the letter from him, gave it to a shill who walked in with it, he authenticated it and valued it, and (I presume), they bought it. I got this right from the (jackass's) mouth.

My opinion: whole damn show is a rigged set-up, from the retreads who walk in, to the experts, to the deals negotiated. The show's worth millions so why take chances? BTW - love the old man, who know's it's all BS. Hate the lead guy, who's bogus laugh makes me wretch.

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by alexautographs

My take on "Porn Stars":

Know a rather sleazy dealer who went on the show with a rare Black civil rights figure's letter. Pre-taping, they took the letter from him, gave it to a shill who walked in with it, he authenticated it and valued it, and (I presume), they bought it. I got this right from the (jackass's) mouth.

My opinion: whole damn show is a rigged set-up, from the retreads who walk in, to the experts, to the deals negotiated. The show's worth millions so why take chances? BTW - love the old man, who know's it's all BS. Hate the lead guy, who's bogus laugh makes me wretch.

Then don't watch it. I know some of it, maybe a lot, is staged, but I LOVE THE SHOW am very entertained by it. I do love the Old man too, but honestly, why wretch if you can avoid it?

Scott Roberts

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by alexautographs

BTW - love the old man, who know's it's all BS.

You might be interested in buying one of the "Old Man" commemorative coins - actually, not coins but silver rounds - they're selling at the store.

[Ringking]

Originally Posted by oriolesbb6

Agreed-remeber it's TV. My brother in law occasionally films reality shows for his co. based out of Philly. The producers search the area for the right locale and then truck the items in for staging(Pickers, Storage Wars, etc.)....

So when John Mackey signed autographs for the last 5-10 years of his life, his wife would have her hand on his and move it to form the letters because HE forgot how to look at his name and sign it and how to follow things. So by her moving his hand around, does it still make it a JOHN MACKEY autograph?

This is a man who goes around saying he is the ONLY person alive that can authenticate a shoeless joe jackson autograph and to have done it

http://walkersresearch.com/profilePa...100002364.html

How can this person be so wrong?

PSA, who the book was sent to says the autograph looks to be traced, and even erased and re-written...

HOW CAN A EXPERT miss this?

Not long ago, John Rezinkoff says a AL RUDDY is a AL PACINO on the same show, and now, his co-worker mistakes a Shoeless Joe?

[Gary Dunaier]

I think Joe Jackson's autograph is common and not rare.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Ringking

So when John Mackey signed autographs for the last 5-10 years of his life, his wife would have her hand on his and move it to form the letters because HE forgot how to look at his name and sign it and how to follow things. So by her moving his hand around, does it still make it a JOHN MACKEY autograph?

This is a man who goes around saying he is the ONLY person alive that can authenticate a shoeless joe jackson autograph and to have done it

http://walkersresearch.com/profilePa...100002364.html

How can this person be so wrong?

PSA, who the book was sent to says the autograph looks to be traced, and even erased and re-written...

HOW CAN A EXPERT miss this?

Not long ago, John Rezinkoff says a AL RUDDY is a AL PACINO on the same show, and now, his co-worker mistakes a Shoeless Joe?

0 for 2 on pawn stars. but they are the WORLDS experts so there you have it.

[travrosty]

To me, this is a case of someone getting their hands on a joe jackson signature, selling it and getting some press for it, and then thinking they are some sort of a joe jackson expert.

Darvick sold that first jackson signature at his own auction in very early 90's and leland's bought it. lelands flipped it almost instantly, ironically to the underbidder that lost out. the guy must have had second thoughts and really wanted it and made a trade with leland's and ended up with the jackson signature.

darvick must have then thought he is a jackson autograph expert now and a couple years later, authenticated this miracle.

I think he got cocky and someone brought a supposed jackson signature to the guy who first authenticated and sold jackson's sig believing he must be the go to guy on jackson and how could darvick say "no, i am not a jackson expert".

Of course he had to say yes to keep his jackson reputation intact, plus i believe that he believed he was a jackson expert to boot and that is courting and tempting fate and a recipe for a potential disaster.

remember, no one saw jackson sign it or not sign it and its people;s opinion.

but i find it interesting that the guy who used to be on staff at psa and is currently on staff at jsa is the second historical authenticator behind reznikoff, who is on staff at both, to go out of their specialty (pacino for reznikoff, and joe jackson for darvick) and authenticate something on the pawn stars show that people believe to be non-authentic. The pacino we know for a fact wasnt a pacino.

only to have psa itself call that jackson no good.

there are thousands of psa certs out there with darvicks name on the bottom and reznikoffs too. so are these guys good at what they do, or not?

everyone knows my answer to that.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by oriolesbb6

Agreed-remeber it's TV. My brother in law occasionally films reality shows for his co. based out of Philly.

Does that include "Sunny"?

[cobblove]

so the guy had it authenticated 18 years ago and didnt do reasearch on the value until now? Not sure about this whole story on the seller.

[drc]

The story seems fakey on many levels (not mentioning the scripted lines). Including offering $13,000 for something where the offerer says he doesn't know whether or not it's real. Don't believe it.

As noted, the guy having had the book authenticated 18 years ago but not realizing a Joe Jackson signature is rare and valuable seems, shall we say, unlikely.

I like how he casually flips back and forth (and carries around town) with his bare hands a Joe Jackson signed book. Maybe they were using a Daniel Steele paperback as a prop in those scenes.

But it's when he swats the fly with the book and cleans the book in the dishwasher, that's when credibility is finally lost.

However, the autograph exert was pretty cute, so everything evens out.

Moral of the story: Only use cute authenticators.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drc

The story seems fakey on many levels (not mentioning the scripted lines). Including offering $13,000 for something where the offerer says he doesn't know whether or not it's real. Don't believe it.

As noted, the guy having had the book authenticated 18 years ago but not realizing a Joe Jackson signature is rare and valuable seems, shall we say, unlikely.

I like how he casually flips back and forth (and carries around town) with his bare hands a Joe Jackson signed book.

+1 My thoughts exactly - when Rebecca told him it was fake, he should have been crapping his pants, but he's just not that good of an actor. Now the show will have more appeal because there's bigger risk involved. Before, it was high-wire with a safety net - now they've given the illusion that the safety net is gone.

[thebigtrain]

Discussing why certain things do or don't happen on Pawn Stars is like debating why Norm always sat at the end of the bar on Cheers or why Richie couldn't get a date for the prom on Happy Days.

Why? Because that's the way the scripts are written.

Cheers was the first smoke-free bar, 20 years before it became the law. What a joke.


Also why was a grown man like Fonz always hanging out in the men's room with teenage schoolboys? If that was today there'd be rumours galore about what was going on in there, and probably a sting operation.