T218 series breakdown and ad backs

[markstalbot]

Greetings fellow cardboard enthusiasts,

I've been putting together a "master set" (all back, all factories, all variations) of these lovelies for quite some time now and think I can agree with Dave on most of his findings. I noted that an earlier post attempted to identify the Canadian counterpart from Imperial Tobacco and though I still need some information I believe I have a more complete list. I have identified at least (9) numerical entries that have a second card, interestingly between 1 and 50. Here is that list:

C-52 Imperial Tobacco Checklist (T-218 Canadian)

1 Jack Johnson BOX
2 James Jefferies BOX
3a Clarence B. Tippett TRK
3b Tommy Murphy BOX
4a James P. Sullivan TRK
4b Dick Hyland BOX
5a Walter Bursch TRK
5b Ad Wolgast BOX
6a Budd Goodwin TRK
6b Unk Russell BOX
7a Frank Riley TRK
7b Battling Nelson BOX
8a H.E. Gissing TRK
8b Packy McFarland BOX
9 James Crowley TRK
10 S.P. Gilles TRK
11 Andrew Glarner TRK
12 Battling Hurley BOX
13 Melvin W. Sheppard (side face view) TRK
14 Lou Manley TRK
15 Ray C. Ewry TRK
16 Frank C. Irons TRK
17 Jim Stewart BOX
18 Robert Cloughen TRK
19 W.C. Robbins TRK
20 Thomas O'Callaghan TRK
21 Harry Hillman TRK
22 Martin Sheridan TRK
23 C.M. Daniels (seated) TRK
24 Johhny Coulon BOX
25 Platt Adams TRK
26a Geo. J. Obermeyer TRK
26b Harry Porter TRK
27 Tom Collins TRK
28 Lawson Robertson TRK
29 Paul Pilgrim TRK
30 Jack "Twin" Sullivan BOX
31 Jack Eller TRK
32 John Flanagan (full lgth) TRK
33a Emilo Lunghi TRK
33b M.J. McGrath TRK
34 Jem Driscoll BOX
35 Eddie Walsh BOX
36 Richard Frizelle TRK
37 Chas. J. Bacon Jr. TRK
38 Dan Ahearne TRK
39 Owen Moran BOX
40 Willie Lewis BOX
41 Billy West BOX
42 Johnny Marto BOX
43 Jimmy Gardiner BOX
44 Harry Lewis BOX
45 Stanley Ketchell BOX
46 Phil McGovern BOX
47 Walter Lee TRK
48 Abe Attell BOX
49 Sailor Burke BOX
50a Bert Keyes BOX
50b Jimmy Walsh BOX
51 Dave Deshler BOX
52 Fred Welsh BOX
53 Matty Baldwin BOX
54 Gusta Ljungstrom TRK
55 Johnny Hayes TRK
56 Ralph Johnstone AVI
57 J.B.Moisant AVI
58 Arch Hoxey AVI
59 Chas. K. Hamilton AVI
60 ???
61 Alex Smith GOLF
62 Findlay Douglas GOLF
63 Gil Nicholls GOLF
64 ???
65 Charles Eyton BOX
66 Al Delmaont BOX
67 Patsey Kline BOX
68 Frankie Conley BOX
69 Frank Klaus BOX
70 Tommy O'Toole BOX
71 Johnny Summers (sitting) BOX
72 Johnny Summers (standing) BOX
73 Thure Johansson TRK
74 Abel Kiviat TRK
75 E.J. Sweeney TRK
76 Percy Sellen TRK
77 J. J. McEntee TRK
78 Hans Holmer TRK
79 Edward P Weston TRK
80 Fred Meadows TRK
81 John Daly (port) POOL
82 ???
83 Willie Hoppe (portrait) POOL
84 George Sutton (F) POOL
85 ???
86 ???
87 James Rector TRK
88 Harry Cline POOL
89 ???
90 Thomas Hueston POOL
91 ???
92 George Sutton (Full) POOL
93 Ora Morningstar (F) POOL
94 Albert Cutler (F) POOL
95 Albert Cutler (port) POOL
96 William Heins BOWL
97 Calvin Demarest POOL
98 Alex Dunbar BOWL
99 Glenn Riddell BOWL
100 R. Johns (F) BOWL

Any additional info would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

[DaveW]

Mark - Nice to have you join us here. Somebody just sold a group of 64 of these cards on EBay, so I can fill in some of the missing numbers for you.

64 - Jerome Keogh
85 - George Low
86 - Jack Hobens
89 - Willie Hoppe (playing)

- Dave

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by DaveW

Mark - Nice to have you join us here. Somebody just sold a group of 64 of these cards on EBay, so I can fill in some of the missing numbers for you.

64 - Jerome Keogh
85 - George Low
86 - Jack Hobens
89 - Willie Hoppe (playing)

- Dave

Hey Dave,

I bought that group of the 64 C52's on eBay last week, and got them in hand yesterday. Some of the backs weren't scanned in the listing, so I can review when I get home to see if i can fill in any of the other blanks as well!

Scott

[DaveW]

Nice pickup Scott! I talked to the seller and got scans of the rest of the cards before the auction, so I doubt that you will find anything new. If you (or anybody else) wants a copy of my latest spreadsheet, I'll be happy to send it to you. I've updated it with all the factory numbers, error cards, etc. There are over 600 front/back/factory combos and I only have about 15 left that I need to verify.
- Dave

[markstalbot]

Well thanks for the welcome and the information Dave and Scott. Thanks to your help only (3) to figure out #60, 82 & 91 and continue to keep my eyes out for double printed numbers in the early series. My gut tells me the MIA numbers will be; Fred Herreshoff GOLF, Alfredo de Oro POOL & Charles Weston POOL - just a hunch as they are the only golfers and billiard players not yet represented.

Since you mentioned a lot that recently sold I took a peek to see what was out there on evil Bay and noted your postings Scott. Though I have nearly 600 T-218's in my master collection I still need about 60 cards in the Imperial Tobacco set with the Boxers, Smith, Tippett, Riley & O'Callaghan on my list. I may take a stab at the Boxers and Golfer but am less likely to go for the larger lot that would result in plenty of dupes.

Speaking of dupes I have hundreds of T-218's available if anyone is interested - I mostly like to trade (I'm an OBC & VCT member) and I'm still searching for a few "commons" for my Master set. Filling out the 30 or so Tolstoi's I still need is more likely to consume the remainder of my time on earth, but I'm shooting for another 40 - 50 years so it could be possible (especially if I hit the lottery).

Thanks again gentlemen - I hope my initial listing helped you fellas out and I appreciate your assistance as I near closer to completion of the "fact finding" mission I've been on for quite some time now - BE WELL!!!!

[scooter729]

I was fortunate enough recently to pick up most of the remaining cards I needed for my C52 set, so I can fill in the blanks on the last three numbers from Mark's list above.

Mark was right about his speculations on #'s 60, 82 and 91 - as you can see from the scans below, they are Herreshoff, Weston and De Oro.

[DaveW]

Wow Scott - nice job! How do you keep finding these cards? You must have people watching every antique store in Canada! So now we have accounted for all the numbers from 1 to 100 with 9 known numbers that have 2 cards (numbers 3,4,5,6,7,8,26,33 and 50). Do we think all the low numbers (1 thru 50) have 2 cards? I recently found a C52 of Fielding. Unfortunately, it's missing some paper on the back where the number should be, but it's clearly a C52. Any idea what number it is?
- Dave

[scooter729]

Hi Dave,

I don't have a C52 Fielding, so I'm not sure about the number on that one. I'd be really surprised if the whole first 50 card series has multiple cards for each number though; my 100 or so cards were gathered independent from Mark's list above, and I have no overlapping cards he didn't list.

So maybe Fielding is an addition to the C52 set as you have one, but that might mean there are 10-12 duplicate numbers, and not quite 50.