Adam Greenberg gets another chance slightly O/T

[Wite3]

To answer an earlier question...

He had to get permission from the Comish and MLB because of the injury. I think he has to sign a waiver as well because of the danger posed. Granted, he has come a long way back but MLB is nervous about putting a guy out there who has had vision problems, migraines, post-concussion syndrome, etc.

MLBPA had to give him permission because of the roster spot. This was tough but because the Comish and MLB cleared him and allowed him to play, he will not take anyone's roster spot (causing that player to be sent down, lose money, lose mlb service, etc.).

If you read or see interviews with Greenberg, he is one of the good guys. He really never wanted this and when the movement started to snowball, he was shocked and embarrassed and flattered but did not think he had a shot at all.

I do not care if it is a publicity stunt. It is the right thing to do and should be a great moment for baseball.

Joshua

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Wite3

If you read or see interviews with Greenberg, he is one of the good guys. He really never wanted this and when the movement started to snowball, he was shocked and embarrassed and flattered but did not think he had a shot at all.Joshua

So then why did he accept this offer, if he felt like he didn't deserve it (and he doesn't) he should have turned this down. He would have gotten way more respect.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

So then why did he accept this offer, if he felt like he didn't deserve it (and he doesn't) he should have turned this down. He would have gotten way more respect.

Sometimes in life you do the right thing, that is why. How many of us kids aspired to the Bigs and made it? He has my respect.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sometimes in life you do the right thing, that is why. How many of us kids aspired to the Bigs and made it? He has my respect.

But he doesn't deserve it. Yeah it sucks that he never got an at bat, but he made it to the Bis. It's just a PR move. Do I deserve an at-bat? Can I got shoot a free-throw? Can I go attempt to return a kick-off (or watch it sail through the end zone)? Hell no! Why? Because I don't deserve to. He doesn't either, because he isn't good enough, that's why.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

But he doesn't deserve it. Yeah it sucks that he never got an at bat, but he made it to the Bis. It's just a PR move. Do I deserve an at-bat? Can I got shoot a free-throw? Can I go attempt to return a kick-off (or watch it sail through the end zone)? Hell no! Why? Because I don't deserve to. He doesn't either, because he isn't good enough, that's why.

Did you ever make it to the Bigs and then get beaned on the first pitch and your career in the Bigs was over? I don't know how old you are but I suspect at some point in life you will see the good in this type of deed. Is it a PR move? Maybe....but regardless it's still a good thing, imo. Life shouldn't always be so cut and dry. There are circumstances when just doing the good thing, instead of the technically correct thing, is better. It just is.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Leon

Did you ever make it to the Bigs and then get beaned on the first pitch and your career in the Bigs was over? I don't know how old you are but I suspect at some point in life you will see the good in this type of deed. Is it a PR move? Maybe....but regardless it's still a good thing, imo. Life shouldn't always be so cut and dry. There are circumstances when just doing the good thing, instead of the technically correct thing, is better. It just is.

So what he got beaned, yeah that sucks, but he was still playing in the minors for a while, but was not good enough to make it back to the majors, plain and simple. Yes, it's a good jesture and great feel good story, but is it deserved? No. I do see this as a good deed, but I view it as insulting towards him. I would be embarassed. They feel bad for him, so this happened. He still made it to the show, he accomplished his dream, whether he didn't get an official at-bat, he got a plate appearance. He got to sit in the dugout, he got to be on that field for the first time as a player. Yeah it sucks how it turned out, but he made it, and you can never take that away from him, regardless of this pathetic 'at-bat' he's getting. What if he walks, then he still doesn't have an at bat, are they going to keep him around.

If I had that happen to me, I would be so proud of myself, so happy that I finally received that call. The one profession I've known since I was 5 years old, finally comes into fruition. Doesn't matter how it ends, because you made it.

[barrysloate]

It's the end of the season and the rosters are expanded. I'm sure there have been many other instances of marginal players given a game, or an at bat, or an inning in relief, in the last week of the season. Nobody is harmed by this and it's a nice gesture to a kid who got a terrible break. And who is to say he won't surprise everybody and get a hit?

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

But he doesn't deserve it. Yeah it sucks that he never got an at bat, but he made it to the Bis. It's just a PR move. Do I deserve an at-bat? Can I got shoot a free-throw? Can I go attempt to return a kick-off (or watch it sail through the end zone)? Hell no! Why? Because I don't deserve to. He doesn't either, because he isn't good enough, that's why.

He doesn't deserve it? He's been battling it out in the minors and independent leagues for 7 years to try to make it back to the big leagues for one more shot.

I think he earned 1 at bat.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

He doesn't deserve it? He's been battling it out in the minors and independent leagues for 7 years to try to make it back to the big leagues for one more shot.

I think he earned 1 at bat.

Yeah, so have 100,000 other kids, many of whom played in a game or two. You want to give them a second shot as well? There are plenty of players with less than 10 at-bats in their careers. Let's just make a team full of the guys who weren't good enough.

I'm not judging his character to giving it his all, I'm just saying he did not earn this at bat.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Yeah, so have 100,000 other kids, many of whom played in a game or two. You want to give them a second shot as well? There are plenty of players with less than 10 at-bats in their careers. Let's just make a team full of the guys who weren't good enough.

I'm not judging his character to giving it his all, I'm just saying he did not earn this at bat.

Minnie Minoso says hello.

[ramram]

It will be interesting to see how they pitch to him but I'm suspecting the catcher will whisper to him "fastball middle, middle".

Rob M.

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

So then why did he accept this offer, if he felt like he didn't deserve it (and he doesn't) he should have turned this down. He would have gotten way more respect.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't turn down a chance to have a major league at bat. Jason Bay doesn't deserve the salary he is getting but he is getting it. Should he give all that money back?

Not everyone can have this type of moment, so because no one else that has struggled for 7 years in the minors/independent leagues is getting it, he shouldn't either? Not sure why you are so adamantly against this...

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Robextend

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't turn down a chance to have a major league at bat. Jason Bay doesn't deserve the salary he is getting but he is getting it. Should he give all that money back?

Not everyone can have this type of moment, so because no one else that has struggled for 7 years in the minors/independent leagues is getting it, he shouldn't either? Not sure why you are so adamantly against this...

Oh course no one would turn it down, that's not the point. The point is whether he deserves it or not. And no, he doesn't because he hasn't done anything since then to prove that he is of a major league calbier player. So because he had a tough break, and you feel sorry for him, give him an at bat!? Well shit, I almost played pro ball until my shoulder blew out, put me in there for an at bat, but they aren't because I don't deserve one. Bay may not deserve it now, but then when he signed he did.

[jp1216]

From the PR side, I see it as a great 'feel good' jesture.

From the player's side - I would politely thank the Marlins for the gesture, but decline the offer. No one that has worked that hard to comeback should accept a last ditch token offer. His story sucks, but he did make it once. He worked hard and made it. No gifts or tokens.

He loves the game and wanted another chance. I'm shocked he is taking this offer. 'Everybody feel sorry for me' society at it's best.

I will watch and root for him on 10/2. I do feel sorry for what happened 7 years ago. I just don't think 'its the right thing to do'.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by jp1216

From the PR side, I see it as a great 'feel good' jesture.

From the player's side - I would politely thank the Marlins for the gesture, but decline the offer. No one that has worked that hard to comeback should accept a last ditch token offer. His story sucks, but he did make it once. He worked hard and made it. No gifts or tokens.

He loves the game and wanted another chance. I'm shocked he is taking this offer. 'Everybody feel sorry for me' society at it's best.

I will watch and root for him on 10/2. I do feel sorry for what happened 7 years ago. I just don't think 'its the right thing to do'.

+1, well said

[cubsfan-budman]

Did you 2 guys boo at the end of Rudy?

Damn...it's not just for that kid, it's for his family and for the Marlins too.

He's not just taking...there's also the giving.