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Old 10-15-2012, 08:47 PM
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No, I don't think they are the same card either, but they share common flaws that seem unlikely. Both have the a white spot, as mentioned before, above the back of the head. Noted, one is larger than the other. Also, both have a white mark just a bit above his shoulder near the right border. None of the other Chesbros on eBay currently have these flaws. Also, there is a small mark extending down at the middle of the bottom border. Probably just printing flaws that may exist on other samples, but it's interesting that none of the others on eBay have these flaws.

Is it possible the one was used as a template to create the blue back card? Doesn't seem likely, but if it was, the fakers have reached a level of sophistication that will fool veteran collectors. That's a scary thought.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:25 PM
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Interesting Chris that the three cards you brought up and the 1 I did that all have the missing border and red dot are all from the 350 series and factory 25. Also, the blue Old Mill is factory 25. Would the Old Mill back be from this same series?

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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It's no doubt blue, but that's the problem. The reprints were that color blue.

Anything I say beyond that will only come across as me bashing the card, so-I have a question for anyone who cares to answer- if this card were posted in a thread, and someone said "look what I found in my collection"- without knowing anything else about the card, and, it was raw and ungraded-honestly- how many people would be calling this a reprint? Or, a "Frankenstein"? My guess was 97% of the board, give or take.....

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:53 PM
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It's no doubt blue, but that's the problem. The reprints were that color blue.

Anything I say beyond that will only come across as me bashing the card, so-I have a question for anyone who cares to answer- if this card were posted in a thread, and someone said "look what I found in my collection"- without knowing anything else about the card, and, it was raw and ungraded-honestly- how many people would be calling this a reprint? Or, a "Frankenstein"? My guess was 97% of the board, give or take.....

Sincerely, Clayton
When this card was first introduced in a post ungraded many people said it was a reprint, then I'm sure surprised after seeing it was graded by SGC
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:33 PM
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-I have a question for anyone who cares to answer- if this card were posted in a thread, and someone said "look what I found in my collection"- without knowing anything else about the card, and, it was raw and ungraded-honestly- how many people would be calling this a reprint? Or, a "Frankenstein"? My guess was 97% of the board, give or take.....

Sincerely, Clayton

IMHO that is more a comment on the nature/tone this board has developed than anything to do with the card.

Not only has SGC authenticated it with full awareness of the risks and implications of doing so, but so has virtually every T206 expert who has seen and held the card.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:14 AM
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IMHO that is more a comment on the nature/tone this board has developed than anything to do with the card.

Not only has SGC authenticated it with full awareness of the risks and implications of doing so, but so has virtually every T206 expert who has seen and held the card.
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True, you are right.

Good luck to the bidders !!!!!!

Sincerely, Clayton

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Maybe we can get the "Cincinnati Wagner" duo/clowns to get their "expert" to do a paper analysis on this one too...
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Maybe we can get the "Cincinnati Wagner" duo/clowns to get their "expert" to do a paper analysis on this one too...
They did paper tests on the back of the blue-eyed Wagner. That paper was legitimate. The front, well, they forgot to test that part (from what I remember).
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Haha!! I was being sarcastic. but I do beleive the Walsh to be genuine FWIW...
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