Eddie Plank Letter

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by jgmp123

All I am saying is this, It doesn't matter the $$ amount. If you purchase something that you believe to be authentic and it turns out to be fake, you are being taken advantage of. I understand that the buyer should have been aware and did his own research and yadda yadda yadda...I get that...I totally understand that, but take $$ out of the equation and the buyer was taken advantage of.

Ah, the dollar amount is part of the equation and always will be.

Look at thousands of buyers who purchased Mantle, Williams and DiMaggio forgeries.

Why did they purchase those forgeries for between $10.00 and $50.00? Because they thought they could flip them on Ebay for between 10-20 times their purchase price. And 99% of that crap was removed before it sold.

Absolutely no sympathy for those buyers and the OP of this thread.

Jeff wrote "In fact the buyer admits that he was hoping "it slipped through the cracks".

Excellent post, Jeff.

[JimStinson]

At least the last name is spelled correctly.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Ah, the dollar amount is part of the equation and always will be.

Look at thousands of buyers who purchased Mantle, Williams and DiMaggio forgeries.

Why did they purchase those forgeries for between $10.00 and $50.00? Because they thought they could flip them on Ebay for between 10-20 times their purchase price. And 99% of that crap was removed before it sold.

Absolutely no sympathy for those buyers and the OP of this thread.

Jeff wrote "In fact the buyer admits that he was hoping "it slipped through the cracks".

Excellent post, Jeff.

If you read the dude's last post, I didn't get the impression that he was looking for sympathy. He said it was a shot in the dark and basically that it was a lesson learned.

Not sure where your vitriol toward the OP is coming from.

I think its annoying that people create forgeries. It is unfortunate that we all can't be autograph experts, indeed.

But the fact is some jackass sat there and wrote out a fake Plank letter, got it authenticated and someone else bought it. The person that bought it got hosed. There's really no other way to consider this, as far as I can tell.

Christian Augustus

[chaddurbin]

the buyer knew what he was getting (a $175 shot in the dark at 20-25k item) so he didn't get hosed or ripped off...the sucky part is the plank turned out to be exactly what he'd thought.

same thing with scavengers going to flea markets and gambling $50 on a painting thinking it could be some expensive artwork. once in a blue moon it works out most of the time it's money flushed away.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

the buyer knew what he was getting (a $175 shot in the dark at 20-25k item) so he didn't get hosed or ripped off...the sucky part is the plank turned out to be exactly what he'd thought.

same thing with scavengers going to flea markets and gambling $50 on a painting thinking it could be some expensive artwork. once in a blue moon it works out most of the time it's money flushed away.

Listen, the buyer was lied to and presumably he can't recoup his money, so he absolutely did get hosed AND ripped off.

Blaming the victim sucks.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Listen, the buyer was lied to and presumably he can't recoup his money, so he absolutely did get hosed AND ripped off.

Blaming the victim sucks.

+1

[mcgwirecom]

Admit it, everyone still looks for a good deal or one that slipped through. Otherwise why do folks still look at Coaches Corner each month? Every once in a while a real items gets slipped in there! I collect McGwire stuff (obviously) and I have grabbed a few nice pieces from Coaches Corner. Admittedly for every real one I've seen on there I have seen 99 fakes so you wade through the crap. But if you are familiar with a signature you can find a real one in a strange place occasionally.

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by mcgwirecom

Admit it, everyone still looks for a good deal or one that slipped through. Otherwise why do folks still look at Coaches Corner each month? Every once in a while a real items gets slipped in there! I collect McGwire stuff (obviously) and I have grabbed a few nice pieces from Coaches Corner. Admittedly for every real one I've seen on there I have seen 99 fakes so you wade through the crap. But if you are familiar with a signature you can find a real one in a strange place occasionally.

To each his own, but I wouldn't give them any of my money, no matter what kind of deal I got or how much I may want something.

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

Listen, the buyer was lied to and presumably he can't recoup his money, so he absolutely did get hosed AND ripped off.

Blaming the victim sucks.

No one is blaming the victim, but when you admit that you weren't sure if it was real going in, you did not get hosed and ripped off! You took a shot and made a mistake.

I don't know how anyone could think that a 25k autograph could be had for $175 on line (no offense to the OP). If the auction house was legitimate they would never let an authentic autograph go for that price or even 10x that price. There is a big difference between trying to get a great deal and a deal that is improbable.

Jeff

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

No one is blaming the victim, but when you admit that you weren't sure if it was real going in, you did not get hosed and ripped off! You took a shot and made a mistake.

I don't know how anyone could think that a 25k autograph could be had for $175 on line (no offense to the OP). If the auction house was legitimate they would never let an authentic autograph go for that price or even 10x that price. There is a big difference between trying to get a great deal and a deal that is improbable.

Jeff

He didnt say that he didnt know it was real going in. He said that he did research on the authenticator and it "seemed legitimate".

We all know now in hindsight that Justin Priddy is NOT legitimate, but that wasn't uncovered by OP.

I see folks all the time put ludicrously low bids on things at auction...they must do it for a reason. Sometimes things get passed over and they score something for less than its worth. I think theres a thread on the first page of the homepage here about "scores" like this. People seem to celebrate these fortunate occasions.

This also wasn't some dude taking advantage of someone's grandmother either. It was an authenticated item bought at auction.

The OP didn't ask for sympathy, but if he did, he would deserve it. He got screwed out of $175 by a con artist authenticator and a suspect auction house.

Christian Augustus

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

He didnt say that he didnt know it was real going in.

Wrong...here is his quote: Ya I was pretty sure it was a fake.

Jeff