Lot #4 in Goldin Auctions Rocky Marciano gloves have been PULLED. READ

[keithsky]

Auction companies won"t blast any authentication service like PSA or JSA because it would hurt there business. If you figure them running an auction with no item authenticated by PSA or JSA there bidders will not be there and they'll lose money. Just look at the crap on Coach's Corner and there price for the guys that authenticte there verses an auction house that has PSA or JSA autheticate items. 10 time less money there. So auction companies aren't going to say anything negative about them even if something is wrong. And to think that PSA or JSA would come on here if they authenticated something that was found not real will never happen. There not going to admit mistakes. Bad for business. They think they know more than anybody outside there company. There is some very smart experts outside of there companys and you would think maybe they would listen to some of there reasons. Like the old saying " You learn something new everyday" These comments are just my opinions and I'm sure not everyone agree.

[sayhey24]

That's terrific that the gloves were pulled.

GREAT job by Mark for bringing this to light, and by Jim for lending his expertise.

Greg

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Auction companies won"t blast any authentication service like PSA or JSA because it would hurt there business. If you figure them running an auction with no item authenticated by PSA or JSA there bidders will not be there and they'll lose money. Just look at the crap on Coach's Corner and there price for the guys that authenticte there verses an auction house that has PSA or JSA autheticate items. 10 time less money there. So auction companies aren't going to say anything negative about them even if something is wrong. And to think that PSA or JSA would come on here if they authenticated something that was found not real will never happen. There not going to admit mistakes. Bad for business. They think they know more than anybody outside there company. There is some very smart experts outside of there companys and you would think maybe they would listen to some of there reasons. Like the old saying " You learn something new everyday" These comments are just my opinions and I'm sure not everyone agree.

+1,,, I agree with you.

[RichardSimon]

"The stronge survive",, from Jim Stinson's post above.
Did you mean strong or strange?? .

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Auction companies won"t blast any authentication service like PSA or JSA because it would hurt there business. If you figure them running an auction with no item authenticated by PSA or JSA there bidders will not be there and they'll lose money. Just look at the crap on Coach's Corner and there price for the guys that authenticte there verses an auction house that has PSA or JSA autheticate items. 10 time less money there. So auction companies aren't going to say anything negative about them even if something is wrong. And to think that PSA or JSA would come on here if they authenticated something that was found not real will never happen. There not going to admit mistakes. Bad for business. They think they know more than anybody outside there company. There is some very smart experts outside of there companys and you would think maybe they would listen to some of there reasons. Like the old saying " You learn something new everyday" These comments are just my opinions and I'm sure not everyone agree.

i do agree with you. they wont fire the people who wont show them exemplars or explain their decision when the true experts will do all those things willingly and no problem at all?

now why do auction houses continue to use the services that treat them like ship?

[toybulldog]

now why do auction houses continue to use the services that treat them like ship?

Because they relieve themselves of the responsibility. Are they treating the auction houses like ship or are the TPA's and the auction houses together treating customers and unsuspecting buyers like ship? If no one was watching the watchers on this particular item who knows how high the false TPA added value would have brought this item up?