Does anyone own This Playball 1939 Williams Rookie? Know Don Rose?

[grundle20]

I agree with you Mike. I mean, reprints are ridiculously close (and getting better, as printing improves) to the real thing. Sometimes to the eye, they are indecipherable. Up till now, at least getting it graded was a nod towards authenticity (even if you disagree with the grade they gave).

If a crook can get the slabbing down, I mean, what then? There's not even a good hologram on the top of the current PSA paper in the slab. All you need to do is master the plastic. It's plastic! I mean, phone China and they'll send you thousands of 'em.

This guy was smart enough to make sure the cert # was the proper grade and all.

And why not? He pulls this off, he makes several thousand dollars off plastic and cardboard. Seriously, it's even MORE lucrative and EASIER than fake Rolex and Montblanc.

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by grundle20

I agree with you Mike. I mean, reprints are ridiculously close (and getting better, as printing improves) to the real thing. Sometimes to the eye, they are indecipherable. Up till now, at least getting it graded was a nod towards authenticity (even if you disagree with the grade they gave).

If a crook can get the slabbing down, I mean, what then? There's not even a good hologram on the top of the current PSA paper in the slab. All you need to do is master the plastic. It's plastic! I mean, phone China and they'll send you thousands of 'em.

This guy was smart enough to make sure the cert # was the proper grade and all.

And why not? He pulls this off, he makes several thousand dollars off plastic and cardboard. Seriously, it's even MORE lucrative and EASIER than fake Rolex and Montblanc.

It used to be that a slab was foolproof, the grade disputable, yes, but a PSA or SGC (etc.) slab was at least an assurance that it was authentic. Trimmed perhaps, altered in some other way, but the card in the slab was "real".

Counterfeiters are an industious lot. Even if the grading companies upgrade the flips to include holograms, there are eleventy-two bazillion "old style" flips in our collections for them to duplicate. As of now, it seems the targets are limited to high-end cards. The hobby is on high alert. Every superstar slab is eyeballed endlessly. How far off can bogus slabs of $25-$50 cards be? The profit margin would still be insane. With nobody looking twice at a PSA 6 1956 Topps Larry Doby, if it was better than good, a counterfeiter could pump out hundreds and go undetected.

[MikeGarcia]

This should mean very bad consequences for the perp ; he might do anything to avoid confrontation and apprehension so caution must be paramount ; armed authorities is recommended here. Good luck but don't be foolish. And may he rot under a jail .

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

This should mean very bad consequences for the perp ; he might do anything to avoid confrontation and apprehension so caution must be paramount ; armed authorities is recommended here. Good luck but don't be foolish. And may he rot under a jail .

I don't know him, but just in case he Googles his name. It might be better to remove his name from this site for now, to avoid tipping your hat...

A simple Facebook search only brought up 2 people with that name in the area, one is an older car salesman who on the surface just looks like a casual sports fan. If it's him, maybe he got scammed and doesn't know it, or just found out and is scrambling to get rid of it. The other by that name appears to be closer to Toledo, and while I know this isn't necessarily a fair assessment, judging solely by appearrance, I could easily buy some shady business.

[Jlighter]

There are four different profiles on LinkedIn by that name.