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11-14-2012, 11:16 AM
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To play devil's advocate, like Glyn already said earlier, you can't really do that. If you are buying cards based upon ALL of the card gradings companies POP reports, you are assuming that all the cards will cross likewise in another companies holders. Even on high grade cards, one companies '9' might be another companies EOT. And if you do succeed in getting something crossed, then you have a skewed pop report if it is not removed from the competitors report. I know we may be overthinking things here, but I am in the camp of KISS (keep it simple, stupid). If a card is graded by PSA, then you mention the current PSA pop only. Don't compare apples to oranges. I think the buyer should do due dilligence himself, especially if he is attempting a crossover.
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11-14-2012, 11:35 AM
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11-14-2012, 11:50 AM
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The big auction houses have to keep the consigners happy...and this is accomplished by commanding big hammer prices...any way that they can. So if failing to disclose a little info here and there will help accomplish this end...that's what they do. So win win for the auction house and the consigner...lose lose for the collector/investor!
And as we all know pop reports are like the state by state synopses in the usa today...they just tell a small part of the whole story!
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11-14-2012, 12:19 PM
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Robert- you don't have assume anything regarding whether or not the cards will cross at the same grade. You only want to get as much information as is out there, then decide how you wish to proceed.
Of course we can never be sure how a card will do in a crossover. But let me say this: if you were to pay a huge premium for a PSA 8 because it's purportedly the highest graded, and there's an SGC 9 in circulation, even though you and I don't know with any certainty how that SGC 9 will fare at PSA, you have to be thinking that there's a pretty good chance your PSA 8 is not the best one out there. Last edited by barrysloate; 11-14-2012 at 12:20 PM.
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11-14-2012, 01:38 PM
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It's not so hard and doesn't take up much space. Look how LOVE OF THE GAME does it. CLear and concise. It's just information. I don't see how anyone can argue that the information is not useful to bidders.
Look at the bottom of the page. Just put the numbers in there and be done with it. I agree the bidder can determine what the numbers mean, but just put them in there. Doesn't hurt. https://loveofthegameauctions.com/Lo...%29---PSA-VG-3. 
Last edited by Jaybird; 11-14-2012 at 01:40 PM.
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11-14-2012, 02:14 PM
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Agreed that Al's write ups and presentation were fantastic but wanted to raise a point with Barry. Suppose the SGC 9, in your example, is now the PSA 8 upon a cross over. Only reason I mention this is I have crossed over cards from both companies and in some cases cards were never removed from the other company's pop report. And they happened to be high grade cards where pop really made a difference.
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11-14-2012, 03:15 PM
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Hi Greg- well that would certainly complicate matters. The whole system is a bit of a joke, but collectors take it seriously so just put out the information and let prospective bidders sort it all out. You can't expect every auction house to keep up with every crossover, that's not feasible. But instead of overloading descriptions with all that useless puffery, in its place provide useful data. That's all an auction house can do.
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