Net 54 Baseball HOF

bbcard1 · #1 11-29-2012, 03:53 PM

Let me toss this into the mix...what about we start out with an "inner circle" of the nine greatest players at their position. We will debate the merits of each position ...ok, I could go to 11...one RHP, one LHP and one reliever. From there, you add one player every three months. Only one....it could take a couple years or more for Mickey Mantle to make it in...exceptional players like Eddie Murray may get their turn....it would be pretty exclusive but there are those who argue that the real one isn't.

frankbmd · #2 11-29-2012, 04:38 PM

Hypothetically,

1. We create a Net54 Hall of Fame using a set of rules that we will all never agree upon then,

2. Somewhere down the line after the voting begins, Bill Bergen (2HRs, .170 lifetime), for example, gets elected to the Net54 HOF then,

3. Can I expect the value of my card to appreciate three fold?

Sort of like PSA creating a market for their product with their registry.

Now why didn't I think of that???? Thanks Scott, I'll PM my list of nominations.

EvilKing00 · #3 11-29-2012, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Hypothetically,

1. We create a Net54 Hall of Fame using a set of rules that we will all never agree upon then,

2. Somewhere down the line after the voting begins, Bill Bergen (2HRs, .170 lifetime), for example, gets elected to the Net54 HOF then,

3. Can I expect the value of my card to appreciate three fold?

Sort of like PSA creating a market for their product with their registry.

Now why didn't I think of that???? Thanks Scott, I'll PM my list of nominations.

rofl - i would hope the level of baseball smarts on this board wouldnt have a guy with 2 hr and a 170 average even voted on let alone get in. basicly its about some of the fringe guys who made it who maybe shouldnt, some of the banned guys who havent even been on a ballot and the PED users. As well as some over looked damn good ball players who maybe should be in. Its a simple eunff concept, how bad can we really screw it up, lol

Eric72 · #4 11-29-2012, 05:38 PM

This sounds like it could be quite fun. I would be happy to participate in selecting a Net54 HOF.

I like the approach suggested earlier in beginning by selecting a Starting 9 - or 11, it's all good - and expanding from there.

Great ideas, everyone.

Best Regards,

Eric

Paul S · #5 11-29-2012, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72

This sounds like it could be quite fun. I would be happy to participate in selecting a Net54 HOF.

I like the approach suggested earlier in beginning by selecting a Starting 9 - or 11, it's all good - and expanding from there.

Great ideas, everyone.

Best Regards,

Eric

Eric, I know you're picking Ashburn!

Eric72 · #6 11-29-2012, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul S

Eric, I know you're picking Ashburn!

Paul,

Tempting; however, I will show great restraint here and not jump the gun until the selection process is ironed out

camlov2 · #7 11-29-2012, 05:57 PM

I think this should be open to all players, not just those in the HOF already. As long as they are retired for 5 years I feel they should be allowed. This way net54 gets to voice their own opinion will regard to banned players.

Not sure how to limit the players on the first ballot, unless you make it 100 players long someone would complain that they can't vote for who they want to.

Looking forward to the first vote!

EvilKing00 · #8 11-29-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camlov2

I think this should be open to all players, not just those in the HOF already. As long as they are retired for 5 years I feel they should be allowed. This way net54 gets to voice their own opinion will regard to banned players.

Not sure how to limit the players on the first ballot, unless you make it 100 players long someone would complain that they can't vote for who they want to.

Looking forward to the first vote!

yep 100%, they were saying to begin the voting with players who are in already then catch up i believe to the rest

Runscott · #9 11-29-2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camlov2

I think this should be open to all players, not just those in the HOF already. As long as they are retired for 5 years I feel they should be allowed. This way net54 gets to voice their own opinion will regard to banned players.

Not sure how to limit the players on the first ballot, unless you make it 100 players long someone would complain that they can't vote for who they want to.

Looking forward to the first vote!

Lots of great ideas. I'll compile them all and return...

frankbmd · #10 11-29-2012, 06:42 PM

Scott and all,

On a slightly more serious note than my prior post, this project will be driven by the rules. Do we want a more exclusive or inclusive Hall of Fame? One idea that I would offer is to have a fixed number of slots in our Hall, so that once filled to gain entry, a new player would not only have to be elected, but an existing player would have to be voted off the island. I would suggest that the number be 100, smaller than the current Hall. Players would not be absolutely ranked so the guy voted off could change based on whose getting in. I can hear the objections already, so as a corollary to the 100 man Hall (call it Hall A), a second(B), third(C) or fourth(D) tier could be added with similar transition rules for moving from one tier to another. Alternatively, given the interests of the Board, we could have multiple Halls with a fixed number of slots each for different eras (19th century, dead ball, interwar, postwar <1980 and modern). We could even have a wing called the "Juice" Bar for the McGwire & Bonds gang.

billyb · #11 03-28-2013, 07:58 AM

Scott,
This gives the fans a chance to choose who they want to see in the HOF, and I believe this board would represent the fans with justice. Great idea Scott, good luck.
Players like Jackson and Rose, banned from the HOF means that we the fans are punished to, we do not get the opportunity to see them in the HOF. Rose, in particular, a player we all watched, banned for life, means our lives too, as we wont ever be able to see him inducted.

oldcardboard · #12 03-28-2013, 08:11 AM

I like the idea,very cool. Start our own HoF from scratch? Add to exsisting? Whatever direction is taken, should be fun.

AMBST95 · #13 03-28-2013, 09:16 AM

I am a fan of Paul's recommendation in post #44. It seems to be the most thought provoking and provide the most opportunity for discussion, prior to a vote. Whether we want to limit our number of votes like the current hall is another discussion, but I like this approach because it won't overwhelm with too many serious candidates on the ballot and allows us to really focus on the players up for induction. We should create a set rule for the frequency of votes and I wouldn't recommend we go any more frequent than every month if you want these votes and discussion to have meaning. At 12 votes a year, we should catch up to the Hall in Cooperstown by 2020.

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