Net 54 Baseball HOF

[z28jd]

I can't wait for the first discussion of a modern one-inning reliever comes up. I think it's laughable to put failed starters in the HOF over actual starters that put in 3x-4x the work. If more than 1/3 of your appearances are one inning or less, you shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame unless you also put up 200 wins as a starter first(basically I just covered John Smoltz's butt here).

I don't even like Sutter and Gossage in the hall, and they put in more than one inning many a time. Wait till they start putting in the actual one inning guys like Rivera and Hoffman, bleh. Then at least they can start making the case for Lenny Harris, Cliff Johnson and Smokey Burgess as pinch-hitters, and eventually Jack Reed will get in because who else could pinch-run and defensively replace Mickey Mantle any better!

I heard that Elroy Face already plans on crying the day Hoffman is elected

[wazoo]

Ed Cicotte, Ginger Beaumont, Dill Dahlen 2k12.

[paul]

I like the idea. There's another website that maintains a "Hall of Merit" and I like their approach. They mimic what the Hall of Fame did. In their first vote, only players who were eligible in 1936 are eligible. Then, in their second vote, only players who were eligible in 1937 are eligible. That way the Hall of Fame fills up first with old timers, and only later with modern players. But the old timers continue to be eligible perpetually so they can be voted in with the modern players too. Also, Negro Leaguers are eligible starting in the 1936 election, as long as they were retired by that time. They don't have to wait for the 1971 election when the Hall opened its doors to Satchel Paige.

[Texxxx]

I think this sounds like a lot of fun. I thought I would throw out a way of doing it, with refinements of course.
Start with everyone being able to nominate one person for the HOF.
The first vote will be for players that played before say 1910.
After getting all the nominations and discussing for a month, everyone gets 5 votes. The 5 players with the most votes are in. The next nomination will automatically have the 5 players just under the 5 that where voted in plus new nominations. This time it will include players that played prior to 1920. This goes on until we get to current date. Then we only have votes say every 6 months.
Just a thought.

[bcbgcbrcb]

I like Paul's idea.........

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by paul

I like the idea. There's another website that maintains a "Hall of Merit" and I like their approach. They mimic what the Hall of Fame did. In their first vote, only players who were eligible in 1936 are eligible. Then, in their second vote, only players who were eligible in 1937 are eligible. That way the Hall of Fame fills up first with old timers, and only later with modern players. But the old timers continue to be eligible perpetually so they can be voted in with the modern players too. Also, Negro Leaguers are eligible starting in the 1936 election, as long as they were retired by that time. They don't have to wait for the 1971 election when the Hall opened its doors to Satchel Paige.

sounds good ^

[Rich Klein]

My first htought was we need a NET54 Poster HOF

From the one-shot poster who set off the Joe Jackson thread to great consistent posters such as Dorskind and Crandall, we need to honor both the one-off great posts as well as the consistently thought provoking posts

Rich

[Butch7999]

Scott, having a strong interest in hockey and hockey history as well as in baseball and baseball history, we followed with considerable interest
a similar "revisionist Hall of Fame" project conducted some years ago by the SIHR (hockey's version of SABR).
Nominations for "virtual enshrinement" were presented by only members of a select committee, who then debated and voted on the nominees.
The process, which may give you some ideas on how to organize a Net54-selected Baseball HOF, is detailed here:
http://www.chidlovski.com/wwhhof/index.htm
http://www.chidlovski.com/wwhhof/rules.htm

The major question for a Net54 HOF project is raised by the size of Net54 membership and the widely varying level of participation
by Net54 members. Is everyone to be allowed to nominate and vote? Or will that activity be restricted to a certain smaller committee,
or to members with a minimum number of posts, or... ?
If nomination/debate/voting is to be limited to only a committee or to otherwise qualifying members, then any agreed-upon percentage
of "yea" votes between 51% and unanimity should enshrine a nominee.
If nomination/debate/voting is to be open to all members, then you'd probably want to go with a minimum raw total number of "yea" votes.

Just some early thoughts...

[Runscott]

Lots of good suggestions and ideas. I will compile, digest and regurgitate, but it will take a bit of time - I want to write up the options that you all have posted here (and sent via email), and present to a smaller group, and then we'll get started. Thanks and keep posting.