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11-30-2012, 07:59 PM
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11-30-2012, 08:16 PM
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Scott - I think unk2 is Knabe, though the bottom of the philtrum may be slightly different. As for the guy on the Ramly card - though he has a chin cleft - he otherwise is remarkably like Knabe.
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11-30-2012, 08:25 PM
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Knabe and McBride WILL NOT be in the same team pic
Lindaman and Moore won't be in the same pic If you are sure that Lindaman and McBride are both in the pic, then one of the unknowns would be Harry Smith. Smith and Moore won't be in the same pic because Smith was released to the minors, then he recommended Moore to the Pirates, who signed him in early June. I would say if Lindaman is there, then the big dude is possibly Clarence Holmes, who was always referred to as the big lefty
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11-30-2012, 08:57 PM
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The Pirates roster at the end of Spring Training was:
Peitz, Howard, Wagner, Ritchey, McBride, Clarke, Beaumont, Clymer, Leach, Carisch, Clancy, Hillebrand on offense. Phillippe, Leever, Case, Lynch, Flaherty, Robitaille and at the very end Goodwin, Lindaman and Holmes were the last three cuts, all near mid-April. That is 21 by my count and that pic has 21 players in it including what looks like Lindaman. Just to clarify, at least half of Spring was just those 21 players. They only took nine pitchers to camp. So this is possibly/likely a Spring Training team photo from late March/April Harry Smith wasn't there during Spring Training, he joined the team briefly during the season that year. Hillebrand was the 3rd string catcher instead.
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11-30-2012, 09:19 PM
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Those 21 guys I mentioned here Scott were the only guys the Pirates had. Harry Smith was sent home March 20th with an arm injury from the previous season that didn't heal. For almost four weeks, those 21 players were the Pirates team. No Bull Smith, no Harry Smith and no players joined this group until Frank Moore in mid-June
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11-30-2012, 09:14 PM
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I was surprised to find an image of Cedar Rapids 1904 with Clarence Holmes. Crappy as it is, there is a good chance he is unk5.
So Scott - are you happy now? BTW - without z28jd this would not have been done. Last edited by bmarlowe1; 11-30-2012 at 09:19 PM.
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11-30-2012, 09:01 PM
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Yeaaa - I got one!
John - I don't think either of the two remaining look like Clarence Holmes, but #5 might be Bull Smith. I don't think it looks that much like him, though - ears are wrong, right? Clyde Goodwin is a possibility for #3, but I can't find any good photos:  edited Bull Smith vs Unk5 image:
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11-30-2012, 09:02 PM
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Mark, apparently we were typing at the same time. Great minds think alike (most of the time).
Thanks for your help on this. I'm excited about getting it framed, but still looking for the right frame, scouring antique stores. It's a huge image - I wanted to i.d. as many players as possible, hoping to matt it something like this one:
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11-30-2012, 09:04 PM
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I'm really gonna say no on Smith. He was real bad in a 13 game trial and they sent him home as they left on a 25 day road trip in mid-September 1904. They still had games left at home when they came back too
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