HOF releases pre-Integration ballot today.

[oldjudge]

I think White will be one of the tougher HOFers, but really no tougher than McPhee or Delahanty. High prices make cards come out and make them seem more common than they really are. McPhee was seen much less frequently before he got into the HOF, when he was a $300 card. When he became a $3000+ card he started showing up much more.

[oldjudge]

Barry-it will be tough for HOF collectors to get a pose run of Deacon White with the McCreachery mislabel being a unique card. I guess that just became the most difficult HOF pose. Here is a link to the photographer's proof for that card:

http://www.oldjudge.com/auction/highlights/4/#a

[bcbgcbrcb]

If you want a tough O'Day card, try the 1888 Sporting Times.

Also, D. White appears in the 1887 Buchner Gold Coin set, I know that they are generic player images but still, I believe, his earliest individual card, correct?

Finally, I have not been able to come up with a career contemporary card for Ruppert. Thus far, the earliest card that I can find is his '62 Topps w/Babe Ruth, kind of similar to the '59 Fleer Ted Williams w/Tom Yawkey, neither is named on the front.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

If you want a tough O'Day card, try the 1888 Sporting Times.

Also, D. White appears in the 1887 Buchner Gold Coin set, I know that they are generic player images but still, I believe, his earliest individual card, correct?

Finally, I have not been able to come up with a career contemporary card for Ruppert. Thus far, the earliest card that I can find is his '62 Topps w/Babe Ruth, kind of similar to the '59 Fleer Ted Williams w/Tom Yawkey, neither is named on the front.

So I take it you're with me, in not recognizing card 19 from the '48 Swell Ruth set as one of him, since it only depicts the actor.. The only other thing's I've really stumbled across was a small engraving of him from 1902(although that's from a book), and then this brewers' association portrait http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-FRAM...p2047675.l2557 looks like somebody might've gotten a steal.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Agreed, Dave, not a card of Ruppert.

[Matthew H]

+1 what John said about 9 poses creating an extra factor in scarcity.

I got to talk cards for a while with Jay today and he told me that there are two Deacon White poses that are the "easiest" to find.

If next one that surfaces is not one of those poses, it might be needed by a collector that already had several Whites, but not that particular pose.

[barrysloate]

The McGreachery card, which of course pictures White, is a strange card. Does anyone know why that name was used? Was there some kind of an inside joke going on at the printer's?

[oldjudge]

Barry-Joe and I always thought that it was a joke about White's age, that he was old enough to be a manager and, in fact, looked like one. The name and the team might have meant something at the time but it means nothing to me.

Matt-there is only one easier White pose, the one where he is reaching up over his head for a ball. Great to chat with you today!

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

D. White appears in the 1887 Buchner Gold Coin set,

Here's what it looks like, though now residing in an SGC-40 slab

[bcbgcbrcb]

You're right, Joe, forgot about D. White's 1886 Tomlinson.