N172 Old Judge HOF Revised Power Rankings

E93 · #1 12-04-2012, 04:44 PM

Are these rankings based on prices realized or toughness? At least in recent years, Russie is much tougher than Delahanty. Anson is not hard to find, but is more expensive than comparably difficult N172s. Others here have far more expertise on N172s than I do.
JimB

cyseymour · #2 12-04-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by E93

Are these rankings based on prices realized or toughness? At least in recent years, Russie is much tougher than Delahanty. Anson is not hard to find, but is more expensive than comparably difficult N172s. Others here have far more expertise on N172s than I do.
JimB

They are "power rankings" based on prices realized. Recent results have been more heavily weighted.

Most tend to rely on the OJ book for the rarity rankings. I am not sold that those rankings are 100% accurate, but at least a very good estimate for practical purposes.

But the point of these rankings is so that bidders know what prices certain players get in relation to other players. But that rankings can be somewhat fluid as more results come in.

ValKehl · #3 12-04-2012, 05:53 PM

Hi Jamie,
How would you initially rank Hank O'Day, now that he will be inducted into the HOF?
Val

cyseymour · #4 12-04-2012, 07:33 PM

Val,

I'm really woefully underinformed about the goings on of n172 commons, and in fact I had never even heard of O'Day before I learned he was being considered for the HOF. But I think someone told me that he is a fairly plentiful card, and as a borderline HOFer, I would give him 1 point, sort of along the lines of Clarkson. Which is still a nice place to be!

Jamie

Delray Vintage · #5 12-05-2012, 01:26 PM

I think some of these are grade dependent. Any hall of fame grade 7 or higher is rare. Some have only one high grade available. Is a grade 8 tim keefe only a 1 compared to a grade 5 anson? It is very hard to rank with so few really being sold.

cyseymour · #6 12-05-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Delray Vintage

I think some of these are grade dependent. Any hall of fame grade 7 or higher is rare. Some have only one high grade available. Is a grade 8 tim keefe only a 1 compared to a grade 5 anson? It is very hard to rank with so few really being sold.

The Power Rankings are assuming that all cards are equal in image quality and technical grade. It is simply to distinguish between who are the most desirable Hall of Famers. But they are all desirable.

When I calibrated the rankings based on prices realized, I took both image quality and technical grade into account. For instance, we can see with Harry Wright and Delahanty:

NM condition:

PSA 7 Wright 10.7k
Delahanty SGC 84 16.5k

Low grade (SGC 20 or 30 doesn't matter here bc card is collected based on image, both downgraded due to back damage):

SGC 20 Wright 3.6k
SGC 30 Delahanty 5.6k

In both instances, they was a 50% premium for Delahany over Wright, so that's a foundation for Dela getting 12pts in the power ranking while Wright gets 8.

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