Piedmont 150 plate scratch(es) progress

[sb1]

Durham, Murphy and Oldring

[Jantz]

One more

[z28jd]

This could be a key card towards your research Steve, crop mark in the top right corner, plus the plate scratch. You now know where one card definitely was on the sheet

It also has a wet sheet transfer, which I noticed on at least one other scan posted too

[toppcat]

After all this it would be pretty funny if the Plank was indeed suffering from plate problems and was pulled!

[tedzan]

Dave

If the T206 Plank was yanked due to "printing plate problems", then why isn't he featured on any other Tobacco cards printed at American
Lithographic (T3, T201, T202, T205, T213, T214, or T215) ?

The real story is that Eddie Plank and his boss, Connie Mack, were anti-tobacco guys. But, they did not go public about this as Wagner did.
They just did not give ATC permission to print their images on these tobacco cards.

Best regards,

TED Z

[wonkaticket]

Ted, no offense but that is not the “real” story nobody knows the “real” story all we have is theories. Your theory is as good as most but it’s not iron clad fact.

[Pat R]

Steve,

Not my cards but it seems there are three different Neal Ball plate scratches.
I found a bunch of the first one (10 or more) and two each of the other two.
Here are two of each of them.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Ted, no offense but that is not the “real” story nobody knows the “real” story all we have is theories. Your theory is as good as most but it’s not iron clad fact.

John

Not a theory.....this is documented in Connie Mack's biography. A 2nd source is Connie Mack's Grandson, Connie Mack III. I had a nice conversation with him
at a Philadelphia A's Historical Society Luncheon about 10 years ago. He told me that his Grandfather was very anti-tobacco. He signed my 1950 A's Program.





Furthermore, I came across an article several years ago on Eddie Plank, which noted that Plank would not endorse tobacco products. I guess his RAMLY card
is an exception to this.


TED Z

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by sb1

Durham, Murphy and Oldring

I was double checking some of the scans, are the back scans reversed?
Should it be Oldring, Murphy, Durham?

[sb1]

Waddell throwing

[Jantz]

Sorry Steve, not Piedmont backs, but I found a few Polar Bears with a plate scratch. Both fronts are the same player.

So how is the research going on the Piedmont plate scratches?


Jantz

[t206blogcom]

That's my Scott Polar Bear and it's currently on sale!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Jantz

Sorry Steve, not Piedmont backs, but I found a few Polar Bears with a plate scratch. Both fronts are the same player.

So how is the research going on the Piedmont plate scratches?


Jantz

That's cool! I'm interested in any odd marks, especially ones that there are a few copies to show it's a constant mark. I only started with P150 because there are so many of them.

The research has been going slow. I've found a few more, but still not as many as someone else had a while ago. (I forget who at the moment.)

I have seen some interesting ones.
A criger with some of the top of the back doubled. And not by just a little, the very top is shifted by the width of the curl at the upper right.

Goodwin has a Donlin currently that appears to show some efforts to repair the scratch. It looks like they erased the parts in the border and the main area of the back leaving it in the striped frame.

And one I'm still looking at, which looks like the scratch carried over into the 350 series. OR more likely remaining after the plate was resurfaced and reused.

I've also seen a few things that make me believe there were multiple sheet layouts. Especially Cobb, where there are cards that appear to be from the top, with others below. But at least one looks like it was in the bottom row.


I'm switching from IE to Firefox mostly because the ads appear in the history differently. With IE even having doubleclick.net blocked I still have to click the back button 3 times to return to the list from an item. No problem with Firefox, but it's going to take some getting used to.

Steve B

[z28jd]

Have Steve, have you noticed the double lines on Hannifan that seem fairly common on the Pied 350? Interesting mark.

[steve B]

I've seen those. I can't recall if I've seen them on Hannifan, but I think I have scans of it on at least a couple different fronts.

Doing the 350 series will be a long term project. Maybe more than one persons lifetime. The level of complexity is that big.

Steve B