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Old 12-20-2012, 04:46 PM
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Scott, David, and Ben, especially, have helped me tremendously in regards to my recent foray into photos, so I really hope that Scott and Ben can get along. I will also put in a good word for Henry Yee. I've chatted with him, and he's really one of the nicest guys I've ever met in the hobby. And he's helped me also in learning more about photos.

You would have to ask Henry, but just because you consign w/ him, I don't think that means that you have to have your photos authenticated by PSA/DNA. If you have some lower value photos such as Ruth that are not in uniform, then he may be able to just put original photo in the ebay listing, but potential buyers could interpret as likely to be Type I. Only those higher value photos of Ruth in uniform would be worth full authentication by PSA/DNA. Obviously, I do not want to put words into Henry's mouth, so you would have to discuss w/ Henry the best way to sell your photos.

Since Henry's auctions are on ebay and start at 99cents with no reserve, there is always the chance that some photos will do exceptionally well, and some will between the cracks and not do so well. However, for photo auctions, if anyone will give your photos the best chance to have maximum value, it would be Henry's auctions, IMHO.
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You would have to ask Henry, but just because you consign w/ him, I don't think that means that you have to have your photos authenticated by PSA/DNA. If you have some lower value photos such as Ruth that are not in uniform, then he may be able to just put original photo in the ebay listing, but potential buyers could interpret as likely to be Type I. Only those higher value photos of Ruth in uniform would be worth full authentication by PSA/DNA. Obviously, I do not want to put words into Henry's mouth, so you would have to discuss w/ Henry the best way to sell your photos.
For those who don't know, Henry (along with Marshall Fogel) defined the Type classification system as it is currently used by PSA. He was stating photos to be Type 1, Type 2, etc. in his auction listings long before PSA started slabbing photos. He and Fogel are also the principals doing PSA's photo identification for them (though they may have other help at this point, others may chime in with more specific knowledge of the current set-up). Glancing through his most recent completed auction listings, you will see many in which he gives all the same details that would appear on a PSA flip or LOA, but without evidence of any paid authentication, so I certainly do not think he requires the photos to be slabbed or stickered by PSA in order to sell them.

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Wow,
I had two day travel on my vacation and viewing my responses for first time and I am sorry if I had started anything. After reviewing these responses and really trying to understand each others views, I have learned one thing for sure. Even though there are different opinions, I know that I have got responses from some of the best collectors in the business. Nobody twisted your arms to give your views, you all gave me information without asking for anything in return. I believe, no I know, I am getting the very best advice from a group of professional collectors. Professionals who are passionate about the business of collecting sports artifacts. Sure money in the tools that keeps you all going in your chosen profession/hobby. But if money was not the key, I bet you all would still be trading and selling for the enjoyment.
So I hope this thread did not start any bad blood between anyone, You all are too experienced, and professional to at least not respect each other a little. You all have earned that respect, I know you have that respect from me.

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Wow,
I had two day travel on my vacation and viewing my responses for first time and I am sorry if I had started anything. After reviewing these responses and really trying to understand each others views, I have learned one thing for sure. Even though there are different opinions, I know that I have got responses from some of the best collectors in the business. Nobody twisted your arms to give your views, you all gave me information without asking for anything in return. I believe, no I know, I am getting the very best advice from a group of professional collectors. Professionals who are passionate about the business of collecting sports artifacts. Sure money in the tools that keeps you all going in your chosen profession/hobby. But if money was not the key, I bet you all would still be trading and selling for the enjoyment.
So I hope this thread did not start any bad blood between anyone, You all are too experienced, and professional to at least not respect each other a little. You all have earned that respect, I know you have that respect from me.

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Hi Billyb
You are a smart person and you didn't cause anymore angst than we normally have. Consider us one big family, a bit dysfunctional, but at the end of the day we are all friends and mostly here for each other. We bicker over stuff, and argue, but it's all in the name of collecting and the hobby. We are a passionate bunch. I got some PMs (private messages) concerning this thread and it seems everyone is getting along fine now. There is no doubt Henry is one of the top photo experts around and also no doubt that many auction houses also do well with photos. take care and happy holidays!!
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:43 PM
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Billyb's posts and questions were perfectly legitimate. Not a thing wrong with them. I'm sure even the 'fighters' Ben and Scott would agree.

If you have any questions about your photos and auctioning them, you can contact me via Net54 PM. I'll be happy to give advice. As I said, they appear legitimate and numerous places would be interested in them.

In fact you could post some on the B/S/T section here and see how they sell.

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Billyb's posts and questions were perfectly legitimate. Not a thing wrong with them. I'm sure even the 'fighters' Ben and Scott would agree.

If you have any questions about your photos and auctioning them, you can contact me via Net54 PM. I'll be happy to give advice. As I said, they appear legitimate and numerous places would be interested in them.
To prevent my own angst, I'm not going to read any of the above posting since I left this thread - only entered it again because I saw that David had posted, but....

Ben and I had a long and very pleasant phone conversation the other day. My apologies for my part in the bickering, both to Ben and to those who read it. Ben understands my reasons for getting upset, and I understand his. I'm sure we'll both be more sensitive to those buttons from now on, and I sincerely look forward to having some great conversations with Ben in the future.

Ben is VERY knowledgeable concerning photos, as are a number of our board members. Ask them questions - they'll respond.
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For the record, just because Scott and I are friends and live near each other doesn't mean I always agree with him.

When we first met we discovered with distaste that he's a Cowboys fan and I'm a Packers fan. He's a Confederate Civil War buff from Texas, and I'm a pure bred Northerner. When he told his history of the Civil War I said "That's curious. I was under the impression the North won."

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Billyb's posts and questions were perfectly legitimate. Not a thing wrong with them. I'm sure even the 'fighters' Ben and Scott would agree.

If you have any questions about your photos and auctioning them, you can contact me via Net54 PM. I'll be happy to give advice. As I said, they appear legitimate and numerous places would be interested in them.

In fact you could post some on the B/S/T section here and see how they sell.
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I appreciate the offer to sell some of the photos here, but they are not mine to sell, I am getting feedback for my cousin and his family who are the owners. My only concern with these photos are that my cousin has his collection handled the best possible way. I will keep this site in mind when the time comes, either sold here or I will let the collectors here know where they will be sold.
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