Brooklyn CDV

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I'll guess 50K.

Really 50K?? I think it's ugly looking, lol Also what would be the reason for it to be worth that much?

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Really 50K?? I think it's ugly looking, lol Also what would be the reason for it to be worth that much?

For the same reason other rare 19th century items are worth that much.

[barrysloate]

The Brooklyn Atlantics were among the strongest clubs in the 1860's, and any team photos of them from that era are very rare and in very high demand. It will certainly go for a lot.

[GaryPassamonte]

I think Barry is spot on. $50K may be the highest price ever paid for a baseball CdV. Only the 1860/61 Atlantics CdV may have exceeded this amount. I am unsure how much that CdV sold for.

[barrysloate]

Gary- I sold the 1861 Atlantics CdV privately at least ten years ago, before the prices escalated. I think it was somewhere in the 15K range at the time. That's one I let get away.

[GaryPassamonte]

Barry-I remember the CdV well, the price I didn't know. If only we had known. I looked at some old correspondence from you and found a copy of the CdV. This is without a doubt, the best baseball CdV I know of. It was 1997. Time flies.

[Saco River Auction]

Happy Holidays from SRA and here are the scans I promised.Dsc_1886.jpg

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[Saco River Auction]

While we all are waiting for the results, feel free to bid on the cool old judge items we have in the January 1st sale including an 1888 Grays Studio Charlie Ferguson, Old Judge N-172's and 1889 Bean Eater photo.

Again Happy Holidays

Troy

[Runscott]

Thanks for posting, Troy. I sent an email regarding the Jan 1 auction and didn't receive any response.

[Runscott]

edited after speaking with Troy

Thanks for the discussion!

[benjulmag]

While I recognize I am comparing only scans, the scans posted by the auction house do not differ in any significant way from the initial scan of the image. They exhibit a degradation in resolution (in ways having nothing to do with contrast) compared to the LOC copy that make me struggle to understand how they can be printed from the same negative. I have never before seen such differences in identical albumen photos where each are genuine. While I'm interested to hear what Mr. Messier has to say, unless he can establish that one cannot in the 21st century create an albumen photo that is chemically indistinguishable from one printed in the 19th century, I would regard his results as inconclusive.

[Saco River Auction]

There are going to be distinct differences in this Cdv and the loc one because this one is a vignette process albumen whereas the loc version is a full view non vignette version of the same pose. If you look at the photographers branding label on the rear of our Cdv it says vignette specialty.

[e107collector]

Troy,

Great looking piece. I hope for your sake, and the sake of the hobby, everything turns out to be authentic when the expert reviews it in a few weeks.

You are doing the right thing.

Happy Holidays,

Tony

[Saco River Auction]

I just went through the email and there is no email from you. Our email is info@sacoriverauction.com or you can call me 207-650-5677 that is my cell phone and i can answer any questions you have.

Troy

[yanks12025]

Also you talk about taking a sample would damage it. I just compered the photos from ebay to in the holder and there's more damage to the upper left corner now then there use to be.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Also you talk about taking a sample would damage it. I just compered the photos from ebay to in the holder and there's more damage to the upper left corner now then there use to be.

Isn't this kind of a big deal? If nothing else it provides a newly-damaged area that could be tested - it looks like a bit of the albumen image is now missing, so perhaps some of the binder is exposed.

[bmarlowe1]

It's one of the earlier known images of a high caliber team. I can think of images of the '59 Excelsiors (plus Knicks), the '60 Excelsiors, c1860 Atlantics, 1864 Mutuals, and the 1865 photo under discussion here.