Why so much?

[wazoo]

Very true. That is graded wise. For raw stuff though, I have seen it various times. When I see a Schlei portrait, I usually assume it has a Sovereign 460 back until I look at back scans. It's a beautiful card, no doubt, but not for $455 in my opinion. But who am I to say anything?

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by wazoo

Very true. That is graded wise. For raw stuff though, I have seen it various times. When I see a Schlei portrait, I usually assume it has a Sovereign 460 back until I look at back scans. It's a beautiful card, no doubt, but not for $455 in my opinion. But who am I to say anything?

If a Schlei Portrai Sov 460 goes for $455, then a Murphy Red Hindu must go for 30K, right? In the end it only makes sense

In all seriousness it looks like a few people battling it out in which the price goes crazy. I've seen this happen countless times and the VCP goes out the window. However, this seems to be happening more lately than ever IMO.

[wazoo]

I completely agree with you Mike! Great point.

[Rob D.]

Something to consider: Collecting T206 backs has never been more popular. And not just Red Hindus, Carolina Brights and the other glamorous backs. More and more collectors are trying to put together subsets of more common backs. If someone is close to completing a subset, and a card from his want list shows up, he might not worry about paying more than the collective community thinks is reasonable.

About four years ago, a back I needed to complete a run of one of the Lajoie poses was a Cycle 460. Another collector and I placed high snipes when one showed up on eBay, and I ended up paying quite a premium as the result. It didn't bother me in the least, but apparently the price was considered so outrageous that a thread was started about it on this very board. I found it funny that a number of people just couldn't figure out why someone would pay such a price for what they thought was a relatively common back. It made perfect sense to me: I didn't know when another would turn up, and I wanted this one.

(As a side note: Since then, I've not see another come to auction, and the price I paid would likely be considered "acceptable" today -- and maybe even a deal.)

Finally, if a card always sold for what the previous example brought, prices would never go up and down. Since we know that's not realistic, it shouldn't be all that surprising when a blip on the VCP radar screen pops up.

[wazoo]

That is very true as well. When I looked at the card one more time, that was the one thing I factored in this possibility. I think it is pricy, but the point you make is completely valid. thank you for the input.

[mrvster]

i was an under- bidder....as you know i am half way done with the sov 460 subset....scheli port is very hard to track down, and i need that one....there are several in the subset that are much tufer than the others...THANK GOD i have the cobby which i picked up in october by a small miracle....anyway, iv been trying to put the subset together in fair to good cond and the card was a little nicer than i wanted....thought it would go 250.00 or so, but i was surprised it brought that.......2 bidders fought it out, i stepped aside and picked up a sweet ass scrap instead

[wazoo]

Smart choice! Good luck finding another