Honus Wagner Cabinet Card 1911

[drc]

If it falls within the accepted size range for cabinet cards, it's a cabinet card.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drc

If it falls within the accepted size range for cabinet cards, it's a cabinet card.

So, basically, you can glue a photograph to any cabinet card you find on ebay and it's technically a cabinet card. You can even glue the photo right over the existing one. Hopefully no one's doing this.

[Hankphenom]

Seems to me for it to be a "card," more than one would have to have been produced (and sold?), and perhaps within a larger series. Otherwise, it's a mounted photo, which has its own desirability quotient if done at the time, but not a "card."

[drc]

A cabinet card is defined strictly by its physical nature-- a photographic print on a sheet of cardboard of a certain dimension. It's not defined by how or when it's made or how it is distributed. I answered the question correctly.

I think you wanted me to answer questions that perhaps weren't asked. I stuck to the one asked, whether or not it is a cabinet card.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Seems to me for it to be a "card," more than one would have to have been produced (and sold?), and perhaps within a larger series. Otherwise, it's a mounted photo, which has its own desirability quotient if done at the time, but not a "card."

it's definitely a cabinet card (as david stated), what you're describing Hank sounds more like a debate for whether or not it's a baseball card.

[Jlighter]

Here's the photo

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=63144

It sold recently at Hunts to a Board Member.

http://www.huntauctions.com/phone/im...102&lot_num=79

[Runscott]

You've got to be kidding. Someone trimmed an original Bain photo of Wagner, and glued it to an old mount? That's sick.

[RCMcKenzie]

Here are 2 Timothee Martin studio cabinets for sale on ebay in Quebec...

www.ebay.com/itm/160946161454

www.ebay.com/itm/400311135233


The photos on the 2 ebay cards look like they were mounted differently than the Bain-photo Wagner. I wonder why the previous owner used a Martin mount.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You've got to be kidding. Someone trimmed an original Bain photo of Wagner, and glued it to an old mount? That's sick.

Have to agree with Scott. Clearly looks like an original Bain photo that has been mounted to a rouge cabinet mount.

Joe T.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Jlighter

Here's the photo

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=63144

It sold recently at Hunts to a Board Member.

http://www.huntauctions.com/phone/im...102&lot_num=79

So I wonder if the forum member destroyed it or they sold it and someone else did it.

[Jlighter]

Here is what the Board Member said.

Originally Posted by glchen

Managed to win this Wagner photo from the latest Hunt auction. For some reason, I thought I saw this Bain photo on a cabinet on ebay from the seller ariev a few months back, but it didn't sell because he put such a high reserve on it. Does anyone else remember this? I thought this image was on a prewar card or cabinet, but I could easily be mis-remembering.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

So I wonder if the forum member destroyed it or they sold it and someone else did it.

I still own my copy of this photo, btw. Ariev from eBay was the one who consigned that one to Mile High along with some of his other big sets like play all and e121. You may be able to ask him how he got it.

[Runscott]

This is almost certainly a case of a current collector wanting a Pinkerton-style cabinet of Wagner, and simply gluing a trimmed Bain photo to the nicest dark grey mount he could find.

Basically, if you plan on keeping it and you like it, then it doesn't matter. Otherwise, you are going to have a tough time convincing anyone that back in 1909 a photographer in a studio in Canada picked up a photo from Bain, trimmed Bain's name from the bottom of it, and then glued it to his own mount, with his own studio's name printed on the mount. While some here may think that was commonly done, it wasn't.

[Leon]

Personally, I consider it a homemade cabinet card and would value it accordingly. Nice pose though...

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Bicem

it's definitely a cabinet card (as david stated), what you're describing Hank sounds more like a debate for whether or not it's a baseball card.

OK. Where can I look up these definitions? Is there such a thing as a photo "cabinet," or is it always a "cabinet card?" If it's a "cabinet card" with a baseball theme, does that make it a "baseball card?"