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[cyseymour]

We all have our strengths and weaknesses, but in the era of spell-check, I see no reason why one wouldn't want to make an effort to spell words properly. As they say, the art is in the presentation.

You could be perfectly correct in your opinions, but if the spelling is atrocious, it would undoubtedly detract from the point which you are trying to make. There are all sorts of grammar errors, yet there is a difference between someone who lacks the intelligence to know otherwise and someone who is smart yet lackadaisical.

No one is perfect with spelling or grammar, yet I must admit that I also reside in the camp which would rather not suffer through other people's careless mistakes and misspellings.

[TNP777]

Heh. This subject reminds me of an email my mother-in-law forwarded to me the other night. I know this has been circulating for quite a while.

7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15.

If you can raed this, you have a sgtrane mnid, too.

Can you raed this? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by TNP777

Heh. This subject reminds me of an email my mother-in-law forwarded to me the other night. I know this has been circulating for quite a while.

7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15.

If you can raed this, you have a sgtrane mnid, too.

Can you raed this? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

Yeah, I read it. Whats my prize?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Jlighter

Yeah, I read it. Whats my prize?

You have to do everything in your life with the same amount of attention to detail as EvilK does with his writing. That includes crossing the street during rush hour, choosing food items at a Vietnamese buffet, your personal finances, and if you are single, all decisions involving romance.

Let us no how your knew life works out four ewe.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You have to do everything in your life with the same amount of attention to detail as EvilK does with his writing. That includes crossing the street during rush hour, choosing food items at a Vietnamese buffet, your personal finances, and if you are single, all decisions involving romance.

Let us no how your knew life works out four ewe.

Do most people do EVERYTHING in their life with the same amount of attention? i surley dont. Some things are just more impt than others no?

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by TNP777

Heh. This subject reminds me of an email my mother-in-law forwarded to me the other night. I know this has been circulating for quite a while.

7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5! 1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3 Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17, B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15.

If you can raed this, you have a sgtrane mnid, too.

Can you raed this? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

HA thats awesome - now i can reat that no problem

[calvindog]

Nothing upsets me more than people who are lazy and shiftless with their grammar -- except people who are lazy and shiftless in their lives.

[EvilKing00]

91 people currently vewing and 5 pages of posts in only a few hours, interesting.

[buymycards]

Where did the term "non-starter" come from? Non Sequitur? I hate that term but it seems to popular at the moment.

When I hear someone say non-starter it has a negative uhffect on my uhmotions.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

We all have our strengths and weaknesses, but in the era of spell-check, I see no reason why one wouldn't want to make an effort to spell words properly. As they say, the art is in the presentation.

You could be perfectly correct in your opinions, but if the spelling is atrocious, it would undoubtedly detract from the point which you are trying to make. There are all sorts of grammar errors, yet there is a difference between someone who lacks the intelligence to know otherwise and someone who is smart yet lackadaisical.

No one is perfect with spelling or grammar, yet I must admit that I also reside in the camp which would rather not suffer through other people's careless mistakes and misspellings.

+1
I do find many of the posts really difficult to slog through.

[kcohen]

For what it's worth, more than shoddy spelling, I find certain instances of butchered grammar much more "offensive" to the eyes and ears. For example, when someone says or writes "between you and I" or "between he and I," it's like fingernails across a blackboard.

[frankbmd]

Hey Barry,

It looks like a lot of us are concerned about spelling errors, grammar and syntax. You have previously told me that you tire of your penchant for posting corrections. Therefore why not hold an election periodically for the position of Net54 schoolmarm, who vows to be strict and priggish, while in office. I may just throw my hat in the ring. My name is Frank:Bur:kett and I approve of this message, which has been proofread by my campaign manager.

[buymycards]

I thought it was Sovern.

I posted this on another spelling thread even though is more of a pronunciation issue. Listen to the talking heads on any major network and listen closely. You will hear - uhlection, uhvent, etc. The e pronunciation is disappearing and is being replaced by uh. Wolf Blitzer is one of the biggest offenders.

I can't get no satisfaction.

Rick

[RGold]

[tbob]

My biggest bitch is the incorrect use of adverbs. Apparently around 1985 English teachers decided children no longer needed to concern themselves with adverbs and avoided teaching proper use of them. People have also become lazy and don't seem to care anymore.
I can catch about 40-50 a day which are improperly used if I listen to local and national news and sports shows, not to mention every day conversations
Knowing when to use "quick" or "quickly", "poor" or "poorly", "sick" or "sickly" and "good" or "well" no longer seems to matter to 98% of Americans

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Hey Barry,

It looks like a lot of us are concerned about spelling errors, grammar and syntax. You have previously told me that you tire of your penchant for posting corrections. Therefore why not hold an election periodically for the position of Net54 schoolmarm, who vows to be strict and priggish, while in office. I may just throw my hat in the ring. My name is Frank:Bur:kett and I approve of this message, which has been proofread by my campaign manager.

I'm all for it Frank. I would at the very least like to see people write more clearly, so I have at least some idea of what they are trying to say. And if they spell correctly, all the better. The job is yours, but you won't win any popularity contests.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I'm all for it Frank. I would at the very least like to see people write more clearly, so I have at least some idea of what they are trying to say. And if they spell correctly, all the better. The job is yours, but you won't win any popularity contests.

Not without an election, and to be honest my tendencies are more piggish than priggish.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Not without an election, and to be honest my tendencies are more piggish than priggish.

Okay, I elect Frank. Any nays? None....Frank, you're elected.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

There are all sorts of grammar errors, yet there is a difference between someone who lacks the intelligence to know otherwise and someone who is smart yet lackadaisical.

I would disagree with this as well. As far as lackadaisical or lazy, due to not being on top of spelling. I can only speak for my self - but for 20 years i was in the resturant business worked 16-18 hours a day 6 days a week. For the last 8 years im in Real estate and though the hours are better im always working. Im also thinking of opening another business next year and i run 2 websites and own a rental property. I would say im far from lackadaisical and but also far from a good speller, lol

I always tell my employees, its good to know what you know but its better to also know what you dont know.

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

but for 20 years i was in the resturant business .

Another commonly misspelled word.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

I would disagree with this as well. As far as lackadaisical or lazy, due to not being on top of spelling. I can only speak for my self - but for 20 years i was in the resturant business worked 16-18 hours a day 6 days a week. For the last 8 years im in Real estate and though the hours are better im always working. Im also thinking of opening another business next year and i run 2 websites and own a rental property. I would say im far from lackadaisical and but also far from a good speller, lol

I always tell my employees, its good to know what you know but its better to also know what you dont know.

I would say it's probably better for society that you're a hard worker than that you can sit on your ass all day and nitpick spelling and grammar errors. So I think you're doing ok here -- but what do I know, I'm just a patriotic taxpayer.

[birdman42]

Random points that may or may not be connected:

As a professional writer and editor, I believe that my first goal is to be understood. Anything that makes the reader (or listener) work harder gets in the way. Even people who don't know/can't explain/don't give a s*** about the rules can identify them in received language. Try explaining proper use of the en dash. It's more arcane than the infield fly rule. But when readers see it they know what it signifies.

When people write/speak and it's clear they're not even trying, it's like a big FU to the audience. EK, after reading your posts I can't imagine it's your intent, but it can come across that way. Using proper grammar and learning to spell are like good table manners. You can get the job done (writing, eating) without such things, but those around you will thank you for the effort.

So here are some writing tips for those of you who are interested. Baby steps.

• Start every sentence with a capital letter.
• Use apostrophes where they're appropriate.
• Take 20 seconds after you finish writing before you hit the "Submit" button.

Good luck, and God bless.

Bill (not looking to succeed Barry or Frank)

[EvilKing00]

writer and editor...i c. (see) as the writer you can express all your thoughtfull and colorfull immages in your head on the page, but wearing 2 (two) hats, as the editor you must then (or at the same time) check your dotted i's and crossed t's. Its really two different all together mind sets.

As a professional editor (lets just say you werent a writer, as alot of folks are just one or the other) where would a good editor be with out a creative writer who spells the same word differently on the same page 3 different times?

When i started this thread i was just pointing out that i know i make spelling mistakes and will probably continue to do so. As well as offering an apology to those who may be irked by it. I wasnt trying to start a 10 page thread on this topic, as i have read through the forum this isnt the 1st time its come up. ugh, maybe we can get back to baseball soon...... this spelling stuff is so boaring.

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

ugh, maybe we can get back to baseball soon...... this spelling stuff is so boaring.

+1

but ...... "boaring" is actually "boring".

sorry man .... i had to do it
much love

[Bocabirdman]

Aside from the obvious reason that draws all of us to this board, one of the great pleasures I get here is the opportunity to flex my vocabulary. Words and phrases that one simply cannot use in everyday life can be interjected into a written post. At work, I often find myself mired in meetings with a roomful of college graduates and I get the "deer in the headlights" look should I slide too far down the list of word choices. I, also, am asked to write "How to" instructions for the computer operators across the company, on occaision. I was instructed to "dumb it down" after using "ergo" in one such paper recently. Posting here liberates a body.

That being said, I try and remember that everyone's grasp of words and grammar is different. Holier than thou I ain't. I may point out a mistake to someone who has skills and will not be insulted by my telling him. However, if I do not know the writer and his abilities, I will forgive and refrain from saying anything. People didn't join this board to have their wordsmanship critiqued. It's all about the cardboard.

[frankbmd]

[QUOTE]........I may point out a mistake to someone who has skills and will not be insulted by my telling him ...........[QUOTE] Bocabirdman

Shouldn't the schoolmarm be immune from your insults?

Now back to baseball, did you know that Moe Berg once shared a jug of sake (the two syllable version) with Babe Ruth in Japan?

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

I wasnt trying to start a 10 page thread on this topic,

Hi EK,
Being relatively new, you may not realize that there is a setting somewhere (sorry I can't remember where now) that allows more posts per page.
Maybe you were exaggerating for effect, but if not... this thread is still only one page for me. Just trying to help.

Tony

p.s. To anyone except EK : did I use effect properly? That one always corn-fuses me.

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I would say it's probably better for society that you're a hard worker than that you can sit on your ass all day and nitpick spelling and grammar errors. So I think you're doing ok here -- but what do I know, I'm just a patriotic taxpayer.

So are you saying that people who care about spelling are unpatriotic tax evaders who sit on their asses all day?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

So are you saying that people who care about spelling are unpatriotic tax evaders who sit on their asses all day?

LOL. More like the other way around.