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A few others that should be changed on this list are:
1. 1919/1920 Underwood and Underwood Jack Dempsey. Adam has another card from 1919 that could also be considered his rookie as well. Both cards predate his Champion rookie and Strip card rookies. 2. 1964 Nestle Los Juegos Olimpicos Joe Frazier - predates his Panini by 3 years 3. 1977-79 Sportscaster Larry Holmes card (Finnish version much more rare and the one to own).-I dont like Sportscasters but they are a legitimate issue and it is 3-5 years before his Panini (and you already used the Sportscaster series for someone else on the list, so you can't start ignoring it now). There are also at least 2 Swedish Rekord Magazine cards (2 Different 1956 Floyd Pattersons and a 1962 Sonny Liston) that predate the cards you mention on the list. If you are going to count the Hemmets Journal Clay then you have to count these as well. -Tom |
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Speaking of early Floyd Patterson pieces, here is a 1953 [newspaper archive dated on back] promotional card of him:
![]() Since he was a 1952 Olympian, this is the earliest card/card-like item of him I've found. ETA: "Custer" D'Amato. Wow, his parents must've hated him something fierce.
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And on the personal note, my current WTB list from these cards is below. Anyone have anything available? PSA / SGC / raw all fine. 1887 N174 OLD JUDGE BOB FITZSIMMONS BOB FITZSIMMONS 1890 N310 MAYO CUT PLUG PRIZEFIGHTERS JAMES CORBETT 1901 OGDEN'S LTD. PUGILISTS & WRESTLERS JIM JEFFRIES 1908 RED SUN STANLEY KETCHEL 1915 OGDEN'S LTD. BOXERS JESS WILLARD 1923 W580 HAND CUT GENE TUNNEY 1926 GREILING B&W MAX SCHMELING 1927 GREILING CIGARETTES JACK SHARKEY 1928 W513 TONY CANZONERI 1929 GODFREY PHILIPS PRIMO CARNERA 1948-49 FUTFOL PO-PO/BOXEADORES DISC ARCHIE MOORE 1964 NESTLE JOE FRAZIER |
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oh, I also forgot to ask - Frazier also has a 1964 Bobbie Card - which would you guys consider the more sought-after card?
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Do people think the Nestle really did come out in 1964 or perhaps it was in 1965 after the Olympics?
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What is the actual copyright date printed on the back of the Holmes Sportscasters card?
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there's a 1977 Italy, but apparently there's also a rare Finnish version as well. trying to track the exact date of that down. For the sportscasters, there's a ton of unique markings on the back of the cards to determine dates, but it's a bit of a secret code at the moment. trying to decipher now..
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Well the copyright would seem to be pretty clear.
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