Piedmont 150 plate scratch(es) progress II

[g_vezina_c55]

I have a covaleski P150 with a printer line on the back.. do you want to see a scan ? This can help you in your research?

[atx840]

Excellent work so far! Please keep checking your P150 backs everyone

[steve B]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

I have a covaleski P150 with a printer line on the back.. do you want to see a scan ? This can help you in your research?

Yes, any mark can help.

Steve B

[g_vezina_c55]

[steve B]

Another interesting thing is that many of the lines only extend to the edge of the design and not into the edge of the card. That seems like they made some attempts at fixing whatever happened. I have scans of a couple cards that look as if a scratch might have been almost completely erased.

Small bits of plate damage can be fixed with a special crayon that fills in the damage. It also can scuff off the ink holding areas to repair mistakes in a small area.

Steve B

[steve B]

Thanks Nelson, that's a new player. I'll have to check if it's a new scratch.

That's 43 different subjects now.

Steve B

[z28jd]

Great work Steve! I keep an eye out on ebay for any I haven't seen here before. Hope others do too

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I don't see the scratch. Can one of you explain it to me?

[steve B]

The scan above may not show it on some monitors.

This one should be a bit clearer. One of the Cobb bat on cards.



The plates have a surface that retains water and the image is put on with a medium that repels water but would hold oil. When the surface gets scratched the scratch can hold some ink and will usually print.

You can actually make a lithograph using a piece of paper,crayon, a roller and some oily ink. Not a good or detailed lithograph, but something.

Steve B

[AndyG09]

Steve,

I have a Keeler with bat that I will dig out this weekend. A P 150 with a decent scratch on it. Great work on this project.

Best,

Andy

[t206hound]

Had a moment so looked for Durham P150s. Found one with a different scratch on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300855689268

[steve B]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Had a moment so looked for Durham P150s. Found one with a different scratch on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300855689268

That Durham with the long vertical scratch does look like it belongs under the one on the block I had. And the scan blown up a bit shows it angling farther left at the very bottom, which puts it right where the ones shown above start. For some reaon I hadn't drawn the vertical one even though I had a scan.

Pat sent me a message about his efforts and I'm really impressed. He's been working on the same thing, and has found a lot more scans of different marks. I'm happy this is becoming a nice collective effort. I'm guessing if I was doing it alone it might take years if not decades to get really solid results.

Off to tape up the Durham bits

Steve B

[Big Six]

I have nothing to add but my appreciation for the effort you and others are putting in to this...thinking we need some kind of Nobel Prize for these kinds of things!!! Great work...Matt

[atx840]

I do not want to derail this great thread,but I've been cataloguing the Magie error, definitely some distinguishable features from the different front and back plates.

These three all have a blue fleck on the left border and lower left as well as the green background is shifted slightly down on the fronts.

[teetwoohsix]

Wow, nice work Steve !! Very impressive.

Good eye on those Magie cards Chris.

Sincerely, clayton

[steve B]

Originally Posted by atx840

I do not want to derail this great thread,but I've been cataloguing the Magie error, definitely some distinguishable features from the different front and back plates.

These three all have a blue fleck on the left border and lower left as well as the green background is shifted slightly down on the fronts.

Not a derailment at all.

The plate would have printed cards before getting scratched, and consistent marks like those would carry over to the scratched plate. If they don't we'll know there was more than one P150 back plate. If they do, it's another bit of info.

I was looking at Magie since it has just the one back and is uncommon enough that it's almost certain to have only been on one sheet.

A nice find would be a Magee with the same back as those three.

Steve B