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Old 02-09-2013, 01:43 PM
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How is that a stolen card? It was shipped to him by mistake, he is under no obligation to ship it back to SCL and it is a mistake by SCL, not the person it was shipped to. If anyone was to take legal action, it would be SCL, not you.

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Old 02-09-2013, 01:51 PM
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So Flavius, an auction house ships you a $400 card by mistake and you keep it and try to sell it? All I can say is "wow".
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:54 PM
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How is that a stolen card? It was shipped to him by mistake, he is under no obligation to ship it back to SCL and it is a mistake by SCL, not the person it was shipped to. If anyone was to take legal action, it would be SCL, not you.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:57 PM
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I can't speak to the legal ramifications of attempting to sell a card that was accidently mailed to you, but to do so is certainly unethical and someone with that type of judgement has no place in this hobby.
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I can't speak to the legal ramifications of attempting to sell a card that was accidently mailed to you, but to do so is certainly unethical and someone with that type of judgement has no place in this hobby.
agreed.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:05 PM
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Horrible judgement! Especially considering he has 99.9% positive feedback on Ebay with over 11,000 transactions- I mean to ruin his reputation over a card that will sell for under 1k..mind boggling
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I can't speak to the legal ramifications of attempting to sell a card that was accidently mailed to you, but to do so is certainly unethical and someone with that type of judgement has no place in this hobby.
While I agree with you regarding the ethics, I think someone like that could find quite a home in this hobby, unfortunately.
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How is that a stolen card? It was shipped to him by mistake, he is under no obligation to ship it back to SCL and it is a mistake by SCL, not the person it was shipped to. If anyone was to take legal action, it would be SCL, not you.
Seriously??? It may not have been "technically" stolen but don't you think that the person that recieved this card by accident would have the obligation to notify the sender of the mistake? I'm sure the sender would have gladly paid for the return shipping cost.

"No obligation" - yeah for a real phuc head there would be no "obligation" to do so.

This is a sad commentary on our society.... we're just evolving into a bunch of total a-holes.... somehow, I'd have to believe that most of the people on this board would have done the right thing and returned it.

I wish I knew how to run a poll here. My question would be:

If you were shipped something by mistake, would you:

a) return it
b) keep it
c) sell it on ebay
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That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Chris bought the card and it was mistakenly sent to someone else who didn't buy it. I would think they have an obligation to return it. I'm not a lawyer, so I may be wrong in my thinking. At the very least a moral obligation.

I do believe that if it was addressed to Chris, but with a wrong address it would be illegal to open and keep. If it was addressed to the person that actually received the card

edit: while trying to edit this post, I mistakenly deleted a paragraph about going to a bank or atm to make a withdrawal and noticed that the bank accidentally deposited money in your account that wasn't yours. You then withdrawal that extra money. I've heard this happen before and although it wasn't the person's fault that that money was in his account, he still had to return it back to the bank.

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How is that a stolen card? It was shipped to him by mistake, he is under no obligation to ship it back to SCL and it is a mistake by SCL, not the person it was shipped to. If anyone was to take legal action, it would be SCL, not you.
Kevin, is that you???
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:37 PM
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A buddy told me that 'Theft of lost property' exists in some, possibly all, states, and further stated that it could/would apply here.
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...to whomever received the card knowing it wasn't his or her card. You can't keep a rightful owner from his or her property. Most criminal laws are based primarily on common sense. It is shady for a reason.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:41 PM
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...to whomever received the card knowing it wasn't his or her card. You can't keep a rightful owner from his or her property. Most criminal laws are based primarily on common sense. It is shady for a reason.
Exactly. A few of the posters here have already convicted the seller as the thief.
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A buddy told me that 'Theft of lost property' exists in some, possibly all, states, and further stated that it could/would apply here.
Doesn't exist in Florida.
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To put the ethics discussion aside for just one post- is there a link to the original auction?
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:59 PM
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To put the ethics discussion aside for just one post- is there a link to the original auction?
http://www.sportscardlink.com/itemde...%3Dy&id=956890
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Doesn't exist in Florida.
My buddy's not familiar with Florida statutes, but he said it'll be covered in the chapter containing theft and related offenses.

What if Chris didn't see the listing? Answer: he wouldn't get it back and somebody (the receiver of the property) would profit.

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Old 02-11-2013, 09:14 PM
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My buddy's not familiar with Florida statutes, but he said it'll be covered in the chapter containing theft and related offenses.

What if Chris didn't see the listing? Answer: he wouldn't get it back and somebody (the receiver of the property) would profit.
This would be a theft case for sure. I feel like a jerk saying this but: trust me I am a prosecutor.
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I feel like a jerk saying this but: trust me I am a prosecutor.
just curious ...... Why would you feel like a jerk?

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