Small but notable stash of 1916 Ferguson Bakery pennants uncovered

[nolemmings]

Call me a contrarian, but I do not find it hard to accept at all. I think it strange that Ferguson would tie its cards, its blotter and its pillowtop to images taken from Underwood & Underwood and then use the Mendelsohn photos for this large 9x24 pennant.

Now if the BF2s are actually the "pennant tickets" referenced in the blotter, then it would be a natural progression to offer a King-Size version of those tickets as a premium. Have we ever seen anything else purporting to be or construed as such a ticket? Has it been confirmed that BF2s were in fact placed in Ferguson loaves? If not, then it seems to me an open question.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Call me a contrarian, but I do not find it hard to accept at all. I think it strange that Ferguson would tie its cards, its blotter and its pillowtop to images taken from Underwood & Underwood and then use the Mendelsohn photos for this large 9x24 pennant.

Now if the BF2s are actually the "pennant tickets" referenced in the blotter, then it would be a natural progression to offer a King-Size version of those tickets as a premium. Have we ever seen anything else purporting to be or construed as such a ticket? Has it been confirmed that BF2s were in fact placed in Ferguson loaves? If not, then it seems to me an open question.

Definitely an open question, Todd. And after looking at them and thinking about it some more, it is probably further from 100 than I was previously thinking. I hadn't really even thought about the picture of the pennant, on the blotter, being one of the small pennants on the pillow top. I just assumed it is what the large ones looked like. In that case it still seems plausible, if not more plausible, the bigger ones seen today were put out by Ferguson's. Now, the smaller, "BF2" are another story. No, I have never heard of any proof they were found in loaves of bread. It is assumed. They might have been, but that is about all we are sure of.

[Bugsy]

All of that is great, but it still suggests that no real Ferguson 9x24s have been found to date and the known 9x24s have an unknown genesis. That seems impossible to me.

Keep in mind that these premiums were not mass-produced like cards were. The blotter may have even been printed BEFORE the actual large pennants went into "production." You needed a whopping 50 tickets to redeem a premium. It would take quite a while to accumulate that many. I can't imagine many of these were redeemed. I even wonder if the consumer was given the choice of which player they wanted.

[matty39]

Todd, I don't think anyone is trying to prove that the small BF2s were distributed by Ferguson. On the contrary, in an article I wrote for Old Cardboard several years ago I stated that these little pennants could well have been distributed by many different companies and there is to date no real proof of a relationship with Ferguson bakery.
The substance of this thread was to show the relationship of the large pennants to the blotter and hence to Ferguson. That we have discovered large pennants both of the movie stars and the baseball players that fit the description on the blotter seems to be an open and shut case as to that connection. To say that these large pennants are not those indicated on the blotter and there are other still undiscovered large movie star and baseball pennants out there seems rather preposterous.

[Matthew H]

Very cool items guys.

I've never seen the blotter, it seems that the d381s came with Peerless, and the BF2s came with Honey Bread?