Let the bidding frenzy begin......

[conor912]

Thanks. Then I do understand and it is completely absurd. For one to assume that none of the other millions of eBay users will see the same listing is just f***ing dillusional, particularly a big ticket item with "babe Ruth" in the title.

[Bored5000]

I have to agree that any auction with the words "Babe Ruth" in the title is not going to slip by undetected. I am sure there are lots of Ruth fans out there that search by his name on eBay. When I search using a player's name, I usually set a set a minimum price to weed out all the overproduced modern stuff.

I am not a Ruth collector, and $8Gs are way out of my price range. But that would make me feal uneasy to drop that much cash on a raw card off eBay.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

I have to agree that any auction with the words "Babe Ruth" in the title is not going to slip by undetected. I am sure there are lots of Ruth fans out there that search by his name on eBay. When I search using a player's name, I usually set a set a minimum price to weed out all the overproduced modern stuff.

I am not a Ruth collector, and $8Gs are way out of my price range. But that would make me feal uneasy to drop that much cash on a raw card off eBay.

But say you only search ebay once per day, and when you did your daily search you didn't see this card because at the time it wasn't above your min price.

[ullmandds]

I agree w/brock! Many on this board have found bargain gems on ebay due to poor/vague listings...i have too.

[chaddurbin]

seller's weird. he knows it's an expensive card. he knows of lipset, yet he puts up a vague title and 1-day auction. 2 too many red flags for me.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

seller's weird. he knows it's an expensive card. he knows of lipset, yet he puts up a vague title and 1-day auction. 2 too many red flags for me.

Quan,
It is/was a very curious scenario.

[HRBAKER]

Thinking about this further, I think the fact it was a 1 Day Auction made it far more likely to have a limited audience than the peculiarity of the listing. Good points being made.

[nsaddict]

I agree with Brock, Peter and others against outing. This card had a good recipe for less traffic being one day. Strange how the seller sold an American Caramel Cobb last month with a 10 day listing. Anyone know the winner y***t (4337)?
Obviously members here already mentioned missing it?

[triwak]

Fellow Collectors: DON'T OUT AUCTIONS!!! Period. If you have a question about an item that you are thinking of bidding on, try to word your question hypothetically. Or better yet, try messaging someone on this board privately. I think this ebay-outing example kinda sux! And no, I wasn't an interested party.

[Joe_G.]

The auction was outed. Not a card of interest to me, but I'd hate to see for a Detroit OJ of Deacon White, for example, to be outed in a similar fashion.

Despite having Babe Ruth in the title, it would have been missed by many given the one day listing and strange (early) end time. Some of us patiently, frequently, and diligently search eBay for the cards we collect in the hope that we will sometimes be rewarded with a little less competition when a card of interest does surface.

On the other hand, we often help each other out by alerting friends to cards that we know might interest them without going public.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

But say you only search ebay once per day, and when you did your daily search you didn't see this card because at the time it wasn't above your min price.

I usually set my min. price for something like $100-150 to weed out worthless stuff. If an $8,000 card is has not cracked the $100-150 barrier, there is a good reason for that. The reason is far more likely that it is a fake than simply because every collector on eBay at any given time has just missed it.

I don't mean to be argumentative at all. If the auction title would not have had Babe Ruth in the title listing, I could see the card flying under the radar. But not when Ruth is named in the title listing.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by conor912

Thanks. Then I do understand and it is completely absurd. For one to assume that none of the other millions of eBay users will see the same listing is just f***ing dillusional, particularly a big ticket item with "babe Ruth" in the title.

Well guess you don't have alot of experience buying from ebay because sometimes big ticket items get past people. Not every person who goes on ebay finds all the same items. Some people may look in weird categories while others just stick to searching in basic baseball categories.

And it's a 24 hour listing, say someone who does a ebay search for Babe Ruth wasn't on ebay that day but came across this thread. Now they know about the item. So what do you have to say about the lot I won two weeks ago that sold for $700 because it was 1. Listed in wrong section 2. described wrong and the items are actually worth $3,000+. If it was listed in the right section or got outing in a forum it would have sold for alot more.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Well guess you don't have alot of experience buying from ebay because sometimes big ticket items get past people. Not every person who goes on ebay finds all the same items. Some people may look in weird categories while others just stick to searching in basic baseball categories.

You're right. I stay the hell away from $10k raw cards with vague descriptions by sketchy sellers. They're all yours.

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by conor912

Thanks. Then I do understand and it is completely absurd. For one to assume that none of the other millions of eBay users will see the same listing is just f***ing dillusional, particularly a big ticket item with "babe Ruth" in the title.

It is in fact "f***king delusional" to maintain that the absence of pertinent info on the card in a one day auction, even Babe Ruth, does not lessen exposure and thus potentially results in a deserved bargain for someone who put in the time to dig it out without the help of outing.

[Jewish-collector]

People search for Babe Ruth cards every blankin hour. There's no way they wouln't see it. Is the seller a member of Net54 ? Maybe the winner is a member, too. We can ask him how he found out about the auction.

[Blunder19]

how much would this card in this condition go for in a major auction house?

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

how much would this card in this condition go for in a major auction house?

Hard to tell. There was an SGC 70 of this same card that went for slightly over $8k about fifteen months ago. It doesn't trade frequently enough to have a good idea, but I think >$10k is a very strong price for this card, period.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Hard to tell. There was an SGC 70 of this same card that went for slightly over $8k about fifteen months ago. It doesn't trade frequently enough to have a good idea, but I think >$10k is a very strong price for this card, period.

A Ruth is better condition (PSA 5.5) went for 44k recently. 10k doesn't seem ridiculous for this card IMO.

I don't know why a seller would do a one day auction with such a weird description on this. If I had won the card I would be picking it up in person for that kind of money.

[Prof_Plum]

Just searched Ebay for "babe ruth". There's been 86 new listings in the last hour, 738 in the last 12 hours (387 baseball cards). This discussed 24 hour auction could have easily gone unnoticed by a huge group of buyers.

Besides all that, it seems that out of common courtesy posters wouldn't out auctions because there is a significant group here that wishes you don't.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

People search for Babe Ruth cards every blankin hour. There's no way they wouln't see it. Is the seller a member of Net54 ? Maybe the winner is a member, too. We can ask him how he found out about the auction.

Doesn't matter how many people search for babe ruth cards a hour. Not many people would spend 10k+

[HRBAKER]

but I think >$10k is a very strong price for this card, period.

That's where I'm at.

[glchen]

I would have preferred that this auction not have been outed. As others have said, although Ruth is widely searched on ebay, people miss auctions all the time. I have a saved search on Ruth, but I did not know of this auction until I saw the net54 posting. You can see how dramatically in price this card rose on a typically slow Saturday for ebay after the thread went up. Especially since this auction was a 1 day auction, ending at a strange time, there might have been a small chance to pick it up at a decent price. As Brock said, it's not that you need to weed out every Ruth collector. You just need to have the ones who would have been willing to bid more than you for this auction miss it.

The price for this card was very strong, especially considering the back damage. It might even grade an authentic for all we know. This card sold on ebay last year for ~10K in SGC5. It was then flipped to PSA 5, and sold at Migh High for over 30K to Spence. Peter picked up a very nice version of this card last year also. No question, this card is hot.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by glchen

I would have preferred that this auction not have been outed. As others have said, although Ruth is widely searched on ebay, people miss auctions all the time. I have a saved search on Ruth, but I did not know of this auction until I saw the net54 posting. You can see how dramatically in price this card rose on a typically slow Saturday for ebay after the thread went up. Especially since this auction was a 1 day auction, ending at a strange time, there might have been a small chance to pick it up at a decent price. As Brock said, it's not that you need to weed out every Ruth collector. You just need to have the ones who would have been willing to bid more than you for this auction miss it.

The price for this card was very strong, especially considering the back damage. It might even grade an authentic for all we know. This card sold on ebay last year for ~10K in SGC5. It was then flipped to PSA 5, and sold at Migh High for over 30K to Spence. Peter picked up a very nice version of this card last year also. No question, this card is hot.

Actually, it was encapsulated in a PSA 5.5 holder and sold in MIle High for $44K!