Heritage Platinum Night

[sports-rings]

As a consignor I feel I won too.

I consigned the Jets superbowl ring. I had purchased that a year ago from Paragon auctions.

After acquiring a second, and better Jet superbowl ring, I had a feeling the first ring would do well in a NY City Platinum auction. The ring had some wear and frankly, Heritage did a much better job presenting better pictures than Paragon did.

I more than doubled my money. Makes up for times I bought and sold and lost money.

[jboosted92]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

As a consignor I feel I won too.

I consigned the Jets superbowl ring. I had purchased that a year ago from Paragon auctions.

After acquiring a second, and better Jet superbowl ring, I had a feeling the first ring would do well in a NY City Platinum auction. The ring had some wear and frankly, Heritage did a much better job presenting better pictures than Paragon did.

I more than doubled my money. Makes up for times I bought and sold and lost money.

very nice...believe it or not, i thought the same would happen on Dimaggio, i think the timing (end of auction) favored my luck

[BigJJ]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

I more than doubled my money. Makes up for times I bought and sold and lost money.

Nice, well done.

[sports-rings]

Heritage gets ripped a lot on this board, but I consider them one of the better auction houses. They and some other auction companies realize superior selling prices due to their marketing or abilities to generate interest outside the hobby.

[jboosted92]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

Heritage gets ripped a lot on this board, but I consider them one of the better auction houses. They and some other auction companies realize superior selling prices due to their marketing or abilities to generate interest outside the hobby.

Unfortunately, as a business owner, Ethics and Business I see time and time again, get further apart. Ethics is at the core of our business and how we treat others and our employees. The "fine line" when you look at a Heritage or ANY auction house who is doing business ( Business = work to create revenue ) while the industry itself has holes (Industry = fakes, forging..etc), you have 2 things that will never mesh, until an ISO9001 type party exists to protect business owner and buyer.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by jboosted92

Unfortunately, as a business owner, Ethics and Business I see time and time again, get further apart. Ethics is at the core of our business and how we treat others and our employees. The "fine line" when you look at a Heritage or ANY auction house who is doing business ( Business = work to create revenue ) while the industry itself has holes (Industry = fakes, forging..etc), you have 2 things that will never mesh, until an ISO9001 type party exists to protect business owner and buyer.

100 percent correct. It gets tiresome seeing the same people rip Heritage..psa..jsa.. over and over and over again. I actually believe they want/strive to be the highest standard in an imperfect industry. What makes it more ridiculous, is many of the people criticizing these institutions are far from perfect themselves(glass houses).
No one likes backseat drivers...particularly those without a license.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

100 percent correct. It gets tiresome seeing the same people rip Heritage..psa..jsa.. over and over and over again. I actually believe they want/strive to be the highest standard in an imperfect industry. What makes it more ridiculous, is many of the people criticizing these institutions are far from perfect themselves(glass houses).
No one likes backseat drivers...particularly those without a license.

If they wanted to strive to the highest standard in the industry, they would take steps to prevent the glaring mistakes. they don't do that, which tells me they aren't serious in getting it right.

heritage insisted on tagging auction items that were up for live internet bidding with a jsa auction loa when jsa hadnt seen the items yet. that is not striving for anything. they only changed their minds when people complained and got banned from heritage. heritage's excuse at the time is that it would cost too much money to fix and that is how big auction houses do business and that the little guy wouldn't understand that. It cost too much to fix?? This is Heritage with hundreds of millions in sales.

jsa and psa still don't fix their mistakes, they don't hire enough authenticators, they don't spend enough time on autographs, they don't tell you who looks at the autograph. they don't show exemplars, they don't tell you exactly why the autograph failed. how is any of this striving for the highest standard? and where is my glass house?

autograph authentication can be done in a positive way with reforms and accountability, but I haven't seen it yet. I am not against autograph authentication, just the way it is being done now.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

If they wanted to strive to the highest standard in the industry, they would take steps to prevent the glaring mistakes. they don't do that, which tells me they aren't serious in getting it right.

heritage insisted on tagging auction items that were up for live internet bidding with a jsa auction loa when jsa hadnt seen the items yet. that is not striving for anything. they only changed their minds when people complained and got banned from heritage. heritage's excuse at the time is that it would cost too much money to fix and that is how big auction houses do business and that the little guy wouldn't understand that. It cost too much to fix?? This is Heritage with hundreds of millions in sales.

jsa and psa still don't fix their mistakes, they don't hire enough authenticators, they don't spend enough time on autographs, they don't tell you who looks at the autograph. they don't show exemplars, they don't tell you exactly why the autograph failed. how is any of this striving for the highest standard? and where is my glass house?

autograph authentication can be done in a positive way with reforms and accountability, but I haven't seen it yet. I am not against autograph authentication, just the way it is being done now.

People don't generally get banned for questioning a Heritage policy or auction lot. They usually get banned for acting like idiots. I know Chris fairly well, and while he might be a bit stubborn (hi Chris), he is fair. If anyone gets banned it's not for politely calling their attention to something. And I am not going to debate it. I know Chris well enough to know.....

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by travrosty

If they wanted to strive to the highest standard in the industry, they would take steps to prevent the glaring mistakes. they don't do that, which tells me they aren't serious in getting it right.

heritage insisted on tagging auction items that were up for live internet bidding with a jsa auction loa when jsa hadnt seen the items yet. that is not striving for anything. they only changed their minds when people complained and got banned from heritage. heritage's excuse at the time is that it would cost too much money to fix and that is how big auction houses do business and that the little guy wouldn't understand that. It cost too much to fix?? This is Heritage with hundreds of millions in sales.

jsa and psa still don't fix their mistakes, they don't hire enough authenticators, they don't spend enough time on autographs, they don't tell you who looks at the autograph. they don't show exemplars, they don't tell you exactly why the autograph failed. how is any of this striving for the highest standard? and where is my glass house?

autograph authentication can be done in a positive way with reforms and accountability, but I haven't seen it yet. I am not against autograph authentication, just the way it is being done now.

Travis, how do you suggest they fix mistakes?? It is an opinion.. The buyer is ultimately responsible for purchasing the item. I do think psa and jsa get it right more than most anyone else out there who actually give an opinion. It is not an exact science .. It is an opinion. They are under no obligation to show anyone their methods. Do you issue coas?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sports-rings

Heritage gets ripped a lot on this board, but I consider them one of the better auction houses. They and some other auction companies realize superior selling prices due to their marketing or abilities to generate interest outside the hobby.

Congrats on finding a new ring and getting a good price on your old one.