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Old 02-26-2013, 04:15 AM
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What happens to the pennant if it touches the glass for a short period or long period?
If using thread, how far apart would you put stitches?

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Old 02-26-2013, 07:46 AM
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Default Framing pennants

For my standard 29 inch Eagles pennants, I simply hang the mylar pennant sleeves on the wall with the 3m interlocking adhesive hangers.
For oversized pennants, I have done 2 things.
First, I had my nicest Carlisle Indians pennant framed in a large square frame, held in place with invisible stitching. Pretty expensive framing job.
For my lesser Carlisle pennants, I chose a much less expensive option, although not nearly has good from an archival standpoint. I had them shrinkwrapped on triangular pieces of board. This allows me to hang them, and protect them somewhat, and if I recall only costed around $15-$20 each. My framer also does shrinkwrapping.

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Old 02-26-2013, 10:10 AM
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What happens to the pennant if it touches the glass for a short period or long period?
If using thread, how far apart would you put stitches?

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I may be the lone Devil's Advocate...

I have about 30 pennants which have been framed against glass for 20+ years now. I have spot-checked about half of them, and removed them from the frames. In 20+ years of being framed that way, there has been no instance of any degradation to the felt or the graphics. There's never been any hint of a pennant sticking to the glass (if that's the concern). I am not sure what the specific down-side is, regarding the glass touching the felt. Perhaps someone here will clarify.

I've seen countless pennants ruined by using tape or adhesive on the reverse side. And I simply cannot bring myself to put stitches into the actual felt.

The other factor is cost. A professionally framed/matted pennant will cost around $400 to do (perhaps more, depending on options). I have over 50 framed pennants, so it's saved me thousands of dollars to do the framing myself. Even with acid-free mats, conservation glass, etc, it costs me less than $70 a piece, to do it myself.

Just personal preference... I am sure that most here will disagree. Probably best to go with the majority, or (if you want to shell out) Steve's example in post #13.
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I have about 30 pennants which have been framed against glass for 20+ years now.

Even with acid-free mats, conservation glass, etc, it costs me less than $70 a piece, to do it myself.
Perez........I like your way of thinking in regards to 'pennant against glass'. My question is, do you use real glass or plexi-glass? Also, Is 'conservation glass' the same as 'uv' protected? With my concern being overall weight of the framed piece. Thanks............Matt
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:34 PM
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Thx for the kind words guys. FWIW I went the Perez way (pennant against glass w/ as little tape as possible). I ditto your sentiment regarding Perez, his way of thinking is dead on on all issues that I've read.
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Thanks guys... much appreciated. Acrylic/plexiglass is a nice option, as it's much lighter than glass. I might switch over to that in the future, as I often worry about the overall weight as well.

I've always used UV glass in the past, but honestly think anything is ok as long as you keep them out of direct light. I would go with those 100% "light-blocking" UV Blinds on the windows, and then use whatever type of glass or plexiglass you prefer. The window coverings are probably even more important than the glass

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What happens to the pennant if it touches the glass for a short period or long period?
If using thread, how far apart would you put stitches?

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This article should answer all of your questions:

http://www.theconservationcenter.com...on-framing-the
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Go to your local craft store and get it framed when they're having a sale for around $60.
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This was done before I got it but it's a nice inexpensive shadow box. And this is the Larger, Premium Fergusons banner....(at least I think it is)

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Go to your local craft store and get it framed when they're having a sale for around $60.
Depending on the pennant and its value, I would think long and hard about doing this.
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Rob... Good advice.

Also... You really did a great job with that Indians Pennant. (I keep going back and looking at it)

That matting really picks up the facial skin tones of the 9 Indians. I don't think it could have been done any nicer. Just beautiful work!
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Mark's method is the best value (look+price), but Rob D's approach is what I take for my best pieces. It's expensive $300+, but really worth it if the pennant will be a centerpiece.

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Mark's method is the best value (look+price), but Rob D's approach is what I take for my best pieces. It's expensive $300+, but really worth it if the pennant will be a centerpiece.

Mike...

Ditto (for your mat perfectly complimenting the Tiger Pennant). Perfect choice... Gorgeous!
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Depending on the pennant and its value, I would think long and hard about doing this.
I've personally never framed pennants, just old photos and I've had great luck.
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Thanks for the kind words on the Indians pennant. The Naps pennant below is the other one that I had framed. Sorry for the crappy, smart-phone photo.

Mike is spot-on regarding the expense of going this route. There's so much wasted space, and it's annoying to have to pay for it.
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Great thoughts and examples guys. I appreciate the conversation. Perez- thanks for sharing. I recall some of your pennants in previous threads and was interested in what you had done.
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Thanks for the kind words on the Indians pennant. The Naps pennant below is the other one that I had framed. Sorry for the crappy, smart-phone photo.

Mike is spot-on regarding the expense of going this route. There's so much wasted space, and it's annoying to have to pay for it.
Haven't framed any of mine yet but appreciate this thread as it is helpful. I can't get over the wasted space in the rectangular framing styles. If I were to go with professional framing I believe I would have to go with a custom triangular frame or mount complimentary items around the piece. The blank spaces detract too much IMHO.
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